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Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

October 17th, 2008 @ 11:30 am

Categories: Contributors, Rant, Sales Skills, Watercooler

Tags: Attribution, Sales Strategy, Sales Force Management, Sales, Geoffrey James

Copyright, dude!I was shocked yesterday when I received credible information that a source I’ve used in this blog has apparently been plagiarizing content.

His name is Bob Beck and he’s author of the (ironically-titled?) book “Mutual Respect.”

Here are two of his web posts (captured and stored safely so that they won’t be changed) that have content that has apparently been presented not just without attribution, but with the implication that Beck is the author:

Note: the above are .mht files that don’t display correctly in Firefox, but they work fine in Internet Explorer.

Obviously, somebody is copying somebody, and the dates on the web pages strongly suggest that it’s Beck who’s doing the copying.

I have in my possession other examples of apparent plagiarism, including an entire white paper from Beck that appears to be lifted from a white paper originally published by Siebel Systems.

I’ve seen sales trainers “borrow” ideas, but when they use someone else’s actual words, they almost always provide some attribution.

This is the first time I’ve seen a sales trainer apparently take content from another trainer and simply stick his name on it.

Bob, are you out there?  Hello??  Send us an explanation and I’ll be happy to post it here.

UPDATE (10/21): Still no word from Bob Beck.   Here’s a post from Trusted Advisors Associates detailing what appears to be an example of Bob Beck selling plagiarized material.

 
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    may08

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    Another one?

    http://rcpmag.com/features/article.aspx?editorialsid=573 - April 2006

    http://bobbeck.typepad.com/bob_beck_the_ceos_trusted/2007/02/finding_the_rea.html - Feburary 2007

    While not perfectly identical - there are enough common words to make it "odd". Just my honest opinion!

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    Sassy Sales Girl

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    What a shame! Why are some people gluttons for punishment? Complacency and greed are always killers in the end.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    Yeah, like, did he think he wouldn't get busted eventually?

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    cgreen23

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    And yet another--and he's re-selling it!

    Geoffrey,

    Check out my post today at
    http://trustedadvisor.com/trustmatters/428/Plagiarism--Concealment-or-Coincidence--The-Case-of-Bob-Beck
    where I list entire side-by-side comparisons of an article I wrote in 2001 with a white paper that Beck is currently selling online for $9.95. Not just whole paragraphs, but whole pages.

    His version even tellingly includes a typo from my original.

    Moreover, in the web archives I can point to when my article was online--December 2001. His piece is copyrighted 2001.

    He bills himself as "the trusted advisor to CEOs."

    Make up your own mind; go have a look at
    http://trustedadvisor.com/trustmatters/428/Plagiarism--Concealment-or-Coincidence--The-Case-of-Bob-Beck


    Charles H. Green

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    may08

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    So Geoff - any response?

    Just curious if Bob Beck ever responded? If that is even his real name....

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    cgreen23

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    Geoff,

    I made a typo in my above post about Bob Beck. I typed that his piece was copyrighted 2001. It was copyrighted 2008--mine was copyrighted 2001.

    That's obviously a material difference, in fact a large part of the problem, so I apologize for the typo. If you want to correct it in the original comment itself, feel free.

    Thanks,
    Charlie Green

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    dave.stein@...

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    Geoffrey,

    For consideration by those that follow you and your blog. Another example of Beck's plagiarism:

    Hey! Stop Plagiarizing My Content! (http://davesteinsblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/hey-stop-plagiarizing-my-content/)

    I had been reluctant to attribute the plagiarism cited in that blog post to Beck, but now that more and more examples his "work" are being brought out in the open, I've decided to expose this unprofessional and damaging behavior.

    I'll be writing another post about this shortly.

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    BrandonH

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    It doesn't stop there. Compare:

    http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3603456

    with

    http://bobbeck.typepad.com/bob_beck_the_ceos_trusted/2007/01/sell_more_stuff.html

    I suspect Mr. Beck will yank these articles/blog posts down very quickly...

    Nearly the same article, but look at the dates.

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    BrandonH

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    Ah yes, the articles were pulled down already. That was fast.

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    rukiddnme

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Noted Sales Guru Caught Plagiarizing?

    Even if he was using other peoples material in his consulting and advising, that is in-material to the fact he is selling this information as body of his works for profit.

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    jkonrath

    10/27/08 | Report as spam

    Outing a Plagiarizing Sales Expert

    It didn't take me very long (15 minutes) to find a
    plagiarized article of mine, as well as one of Kelley
    Robertsons. I just posted about it on my blog:

    http://sellingtobigcompanies.blogs.com/selling/2008/
    10/outing-a-plagia.html

    Very sad that he thought he had to do this to be
    successful - and oh, so very wrong.

    The end never justifies the means.

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    jkonrath

    10/27/08 | Report as spam

    re: Outing a Plagiarizing Sales Expert

    My above link wrapped and doesn't take you to my
    website. Here's where you'll find my article on Bob Beck's
    plagiarizing:

    http://tinyurl.com/plagiarizedarticle

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