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Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

September 14th, 2009 @ 11:30 am

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Categories: Career Development, Ethics, Motivation, Sales Tips

Tags: Friend, Sales Strategy, Sales Force Management, Sales, Geoffrey James

Look at your friends, your family and your colleagues.  Are they generally successful, or do their lives smack of failure?  Are they motivated to be their best, or do they complain about hard knocks?  Do they pay attention to health, or are they out-of-shape?  These are important questions for every sales professional because recent scientific research reveals that you’ll be inexorably pulled down (or up) to the level of the people around you.

The scientific study, described in the New York Time Magazine article “Is Happiness Catching” tracked the lives of several thousand people in the town of Framingham, MA.  It documented the existence of a phenomenon known as “social contagion” whereby some clusters of friends “infect” each other with unhappiness and bad habits, while other clusters spread the general happiness and healthy behavior that are the foundation of success, both in sales and in life.

This research is important to you, personally, because sales jobs require emotional stamina and (quite frankly) a physical body that’s capable of supporting that positive attitude.  If your personal life, and the people around you, are constantly dragging you down to their level, there’s NO WAY that you’ll ever be very successful at sales.  Or at life, for that matter.

What to do?  I have the following suggestions:

  • STEP #1: Decide What’s Normal for You. Rather than let the people around you decide how and what you’re going to be, decide for yourself.  Write down exactly what you expect of yourself and what standards you will hold for yourself.  Post that statement by your computer, in your briefcase, and put a copy in your wallet.  That statement is your first-level immunization against social contagion.
  • STEP #2: Weed Out Your Social Contacts. Look at the friends with whom you associate on a regular basis.  For each friend, determine whether that relationship is helping or hurting your ability to succeed.  If the majority of your friends are as success-oriented as you, then you can afford to help raise a slacker or two to your level.  If not, it’s time to get a new set of friends.  Go do it.
  • STEP #3: Limit Contact with Toxic Family. You can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your family.  However, if you’ve got family members who are constantly pulling you down, you need to sharply limit the amount of time that you spend with them.  Avoid situations where they put pressure on you to indulge in habits — like gossip, smoking, drinking, overeating, etc. — that make success more difficult.
  • STEP #4: Extract Yourself from a Loser Firm. Now that you’ve gotten your personal life aligned with success, it’s time to take a good, hard look at your co-workers.  Ask yourself in all honesty: are they mostly winners or mostly losers?  If they’re mostly losers, you simply must find another job.  Every day that you remain employed there, you’re damaging your career.  Use your sales skills to find and cultivate a new job.

READERS: Please note that when I’m talking about “healthy”, I’m not talking about being thin.  I’m talking about healthy, which comes in a wide range of physical sizes.

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    Ian P

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    On a contentious note I find that both Catholic and Muslim friends have central philosophies that mitigate against success.
    My Catholic friends all believe that man is fundamentally evil and the search for earthly rewards is a sign of that evil. So minimise your efforts for Mammon and hard work will bring true, heavenly rewards.
    My Muslim friends lack ambition - "Allah will provide" - so why should I bother.

    This doesn't mean I will give up either group of friends, I just make allowances for their attitude.

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    globalsherpa

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Wow, I work with a diverse group, including many Muslims and they are some of the most hard-working, driven and successful people I've ever met.

    Perhaps it's not the philosophy or religion of the people you encounter, but rather the quality of friends that you attract that is the issue.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 1:
    I tend to think that general culture is more important than religion when it comes to predicting attitude towards selling. The U.S., for example, has a highly negative attitude toward selling, which is weird considering that it's supposed to be a bastion of capitalism. China, by contrast, has a relatively positive attitude towards sales, even though its current government is officially communist. Go figure.

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    Sid Herron

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    So...once again my mother was right when she cautioned me about my choice of friends. happy

    This post is right on. I think nearly everyone (at least everyone who has been in the sales profession for any length of time) is aware of the importance of a Positive Mental Attitude. The cold hard truth is that it's nearly impossible to maintain that PMA when you're constantly around people who drag you down.

    It can be really difficult and emotionally wrenching to cut those ties - particularly to "toxic family." But if success is important to you, you simply have to do it.

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    Bob Wileman

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Ian P
    That may be what they say to you, but I note there are many very wealthuy muslims and catholics out there.

    The article says if you want to succeed seek out successful people. You may be more successful as a result. On the other hand you may be happier feeling good about not competing.
    Also, since when did the US have a negative attitude towards selling? Americans are seen by the rest of the world as being among the most Always Be Closing people on earth. Or is that just in films?

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 5:
    It's not just in films. People here look down on sales pros. I think they're nuts for that opinion, but it's there. Just the other day, I was talking with another parent about my toddler's verbal skills -- which are off the scale -- and suggested that he'd be good at sales. She looked at me like I was some kind of monster for suggesting he go into that field. Weird.

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    caddit

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    Reputation Well Earned?

    Well, I live in Australia and I can understand the woman's viewpoint totally. Australians are tired of being manipulated by negotiating professionals who a) don't know their product b) don't offer any support c) don't really add value to the actual deliverable (i.e. VAR actually means VALUE ADDED reseller) d) are here for money today and gone tomorrow when there's a problem.

    Frankly I can't blame her. And yes I work in sales.

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    Mark Wayland L3F

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Geoffrey,
    I find this kind of psychological discussion fascinating. I'd suggest that Step #1 is near impossible for most because it involves an almost constant consciousness of your thoughts/ feelings and the impact of the people and the environment around you.

    It also means that you've got a handle on "normal", which for most of us is a relative perspective caused by the hard wired nature of our brain; as social animals we want to conform and fit in with others, while at the same time creating a distinctive identity. We want to be both similar and different.

    There was a short article that looked at this in the NY Times (Dec 27, 08) by Sonja Lyubomirsky. She asked, despite all the GFC gloom and doom, why are we all still feeling surprisingly OK?

    In short, it's because the GFC is affecting us all, not just some.

    She goes on to say that (as social, herding animals) "humans are remarkably attuned to relative position and status". A Harvard study showed that we'd prefer a salary of $50K when others are making $25K to a salary of $100k when others are on $200K.

    So maybe one of the reasons we hang with "losers" is because it makes us feel relatively better knowing that "we're not as bad as them". The danger is, as you say, when you find yourself conforming with them.

    In fact, as I look at the way you've written the article and attracted our attention you've tapped into this very thing.

    As Whoopi Goldberg said, "Normal is not an attitude. It's just a setting on your washing machine".

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    Q N Q

    09/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Hey Geoffrey, This is good interactive post, thanks Sangeeta

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    Hemistyle

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    I agree with what you say but hate it when people say absolute statements like 'there is NO WAY.'

    Also along with many of the successful friends I have I also choose to be friends with people who aren't doing so well. What kind of friend/person are we when we are prepared to ditch people because they aren't 'successful.' (And by the way what defines success.) I say this to my children, it's ok be friends with that person and try to help them but if they start having a negative influence on you then you can no longer be their friend.

    I think that it is the same for us. I belive we do have the ability to not let negative/struggling people affect our 'success' but if they do then a frank conversation with that person and ending that relationship is best. That what I hate about surveys, to broad. Remember many successful people were once losers who through the grace of God and the assistance of people turned their lives around.

    Had to say it.

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    usman@...

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    As an atheist, I would hate to discuss Catholics and Moslems since that would be a precious waste of my time. I agree with this post ? people around you have the most influence on your behaviour. I would say it is perfectly normal to have the bad apples? as friends in college who you drink with and smoke weed as this is part of growing up and one must try everything in life. For sure there is no weed in heaven and who cares about hell. However when you grow up there should be this strong desire to achieve and that?s when you look around you. Negative people no doubt don?t only bring you down but in some instances poison the ecosystem in the organisation so much that one is likely to lose focus.

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    DarrenBJones

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    While I agree with many of the points of this post, I also believe that leaders have the ability to enter a workplace where these negative attitudes are prevalent and use transformational and inspirational techniques to alter the culture.
    As you correctly state, many attitudes are shaped by those who influence our choices for good and bad. I don't think that turning mothers picture to the wall and heading out should be your first option when you have a chance to be a positive influence.

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    Ian P

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Globalsherpa
    I agree many of both the Cathoolic and Muslim faith are rich and successful in conventional terms. I didn't say they were lazy.
    The people I am talking about see success in different terms, seriously and with intent.
    These groups provide the the greatest quantity of people who work for nothing and live on charity. I.E. they take vows of poverty and really try to live to that creed.
    Two very close muslim friends are mullahs who spend their days teaching their faith. Their only ncome is charity in the form of food and free housing - generally a floor to crash on.
    The many catholics that I know are all hard working as I said in my first response, but their focus isn't on developing wealth, it is more on living what they see as ethically sound lives.
    I guess the point I was trying to make to Geoffrey is that having friends who are not successful money-grubbers isn't a bad thing.
    I am a relatively wealthy WASP, but wouldn't give up my friends just to hang around people who are just like me. That is a way to true perdition. Those friends I have are fascinating people whom I love, even if they are poor.

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    Manjula Navaratne

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    This is excellent !! I would say it's a personal path to those who
    look and work hard to succeed in both work and life. It really
    gave me an idea as to how you should march forward while
    sweeping land mines on the road to success.

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    clarkm

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    There are many forms of wealth and success. A person who chooses a life of charity and poverty is not necessarily a loser. I've been around financially successful people who can be real downers and have a negative affect on those around them. I don't recall the article making any reference to money as a factor here. Maybe we're getting a bit off the subject with that line.

    But I agree wholeheartedly that many in the US view sales as a negative profession. I believe that is because our views are often skewed by our many experiences with common people in sales roles rather than sales professionals. There is a big difference.

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    Juffowup

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Hmm, well depends.

    Answer this question for me. Do you mean shed any friends who are not at the same level of financial success and will never achieve any financial success or shed friends that actively bring you down with toxicity?

    If it's the latter, I'm in agreement with it, if it's the former, then I think you've got some misplaced priorities.

    If you're defining your life by how many digits are in your bank account or how many toys you have, then you're defining an empty life. I prefer to define my life by my friendships, my loves, goodwill, and keeping in mind the great lessons of humanity and our religions. For other more faithful, it may be god that they define their life by.

    I like to make money with my business, but money can make you unhappy if you let it get to your head and become of the mindset that wealth & stuff == happiness. Happiness for others & myself is #1 priority, not the amount of stuff I own.

    But point taken. If people are really really toxic to you, then being around them too much can poison your entire life. In that case, it's good to move away from such situations.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Notes above:
    I don't believe I said anything about money in the post. I was writing about attitude.

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    ApparelBrando

    09/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    You are what you eat. Success breeds success.

    Let's not throw racism into the mix here in addition to religious stereotyping, or else Latin Americans lack drive, Germans don't take risks, the English have bad teeth, etc., etc. The "Sleazy Salesman" stereotype is hard to overcome, but frankly salespeople provide a vital service and force to the economy, and I've yet to see a business that makes money without someone selling a product.

    Salesmen are looked upon with dread in the US, as just another person trying to "sell" me something I don't need. Sales professionals need to deliver more products & support that make someone's life better or easier or more worthwhile or business faster/better/reduce costs, etc. to improve the overall view.

    It's a "Dirty job", but someone has to do it! happy

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    jnm07

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Respectfully I know you mean well. I can relate to this also. I belong to a family. We spin our heads most times but we're never losers. Winners in-progress. Life always throw lemons. I got my fair share of them too, but hey, I like mixing lemonades. A quirk.

    My mentor taught me, the ones who conquer the world are those who can conquer their private sorrows. People change. Those with wisdom change for the better. The best change masters are those who actually went through the ordeal itself, not those who knew only theories. Knowledge can never beat wisdom.

    Life's a journey. The best journeys are those with your family. Anyway, thanks, learned a lot. My first ever blog comment was here, I think last March. One must pay one's respects and debts of gratitude. Nice article. Sincerely.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 19:
    I'm not sure whether you're leaving the Sales Machine community because of this post, or just expressing your opinion on the subject of this post. I hope it's the latter.

    I don't believe in cutting yourself off completely from your family in order to be successful. However, if your family drags you down, you have to decide whether spending more time with them is worth the negative impact on your attitude and consequently your ability to remain happy.

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    alejoel53

    09/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    I think religion is not a hindrance to job success, in fact any
    religion forbids working in sales?. I agree that the capabilities
    of a person and his entourage help a lot to commercial
    success

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    raguand16

    09/28/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    What I have read what Geoffrey says: "If your personal life, and the people around you, are constantly dragging you down to their level, there?s NO WAY that you?ll ever be very successful at sales. Or at life, for that matter." This is a very profound and pretentious way of defining success or happiness for that matter......It seems that Geoffrey either has not lived much or life has not given him the wisdom of learning....Nobody can be happy by osmosis, nor unhappy for that matter....Is what you think of yourself and others that make you lead a successful life. And I mean a "satisfied life." Sorry Geoffrey....you need to travel, meet more people, get more professional experience or just read more......Excellent piece of discussion.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 22:
    It's not my opinion; it's the result of a research study that tracked a statistically significant population. Beyond that, it's intuitive, I think, that keeping bad company is a great way to get in trouble yourself.

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    ashish.bhagat

    09/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Hi Geoffrey
    Great write - up. Just thought you should have added few more Do?s along with the don?ts, which I am sure you have some up your sleeves, just waiting to be shared.

    Some of our friends have associated success with amount of money (wealth) you have, which I feel is not what Geoffrey is suggesting.

    I think, success is a relative term and can mean different for every one. While you can be poor and successful you can be wealthy and miserable. So you have to define your own measure of success and find if any of your associate is diverting you from it. If yes, better to avoid. But there can be other side of this too. You need to have both good and bad examples to refer. If you are surrounded by both then you know which attitude to follow and which attitude not to. Only thing you should be wise enough to select what is best for you.

    Personally I am surrounded by more of whiners and under achievers (I don?t call then losers as most of then might have achieved the maximum of their capacities/standard they think they can achieve, which makes then a winner) and most of the time I do try to extract some positive message out of it. But that does not give me complete immunity and I am also had being guilty of adopting some nasty habits? like postponing work (not exactly procrastinating), accepting lower standards and some other, which did take a lot of time and efforts to realise and correct (some of it I am still working on). Anyways I did pay the price for it, but got a very valuable lesson.

    As some great person said (I am not sure about the name) life is too short to make all the mistakes by yourself and learn. So every body has a choice to listen to what Geoffrey or the survey has to say or have your own experience.

    Chow, Tata.
    Ashish

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    Gahini

    10/02/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Dear All this is a very deep subject!
    Here is some clue..
    We are actually like magnets, the centers of attraction!
    We are the magnets! the centers of attraction!: You are like magnet attracting all the things necessary for your life!
    a) See how you get the food, See how you choose the food, based on your likes, preferences, color, appearance, smell, taste, & see further in your body, how you take it in the body, how you digest the good essential things, see how you disposes off the unnecessary things.

    b) See how you pull in your breath in, how you absorb the oxygen from the air & expel out the carbon dioxide & other gases. How this is done we don?t know. But every red blood cell in our blood has the power of attracting. It absorbs the oxygen & other essential things from the breath & then it leaves out the undesirable things.

    c) Think how we get the ideas, new concepts that continually shape our life.

    As humans we do not know what our body needs, but in our body there is this power to attract the substances needed to form our body, the power to attract the thoughts to run our body, & to experience our life as we desire.

    Ideally a human body is a great great collection of cells of various types, all-working together in perfect harmony.

    In all ONE CRORE CRORE cells at least, are present in an average human body!
    They are created from 2 basic cells. One coming from the father & one from the mother.
    These two, after they unite, they divide & divide & multiply in numbers to ONE CRORE CRORE cells.
    This is being done by the power of the Magnet in us.
    This is also being controlled by the power of the Magnet in us, otherwise we could have grown to enormous proportions.

    We have the power of the Magnet in us, so whatever we hold in our mind we start attracting it.

    If you think of a RED color, you will immediately start attracting, to your mind, the ideas about & all sorts of things that are RED.

    If you think of SUCCESS, you will immediately start attracting, to your mind, the ideas & all the things that are related to success.

    Similarly
    If you think of SICKNESS, you will immediately start attracting, to your mind, the ideas about the conditions of sickness & later you will create them in your body.

    If you are normally negative minded, you would attract, all types of negative ideas & negative minded people.

    Therefore when you think, "I AM RICH", you will attract, all types of similar ideas & thoughts & like-minded people.

    Now think on these lines & see what you are attracting & why you are attracting?

    Now we know by the incorrect use of this magnet we attract undesired things in our experience.

    Our feelings, our emotions, our thoughts have this magnetic power.

    So if there are thoughts of JOY, we attract the JOY & if there are thoughts of Health, we attract the Health..

    The real difficulty is that our thinking activity is almost always going on subconscious level, involuntarily.

    We may consciously control the thinking process for a while but during most of the time it is involuntary.

    At such times we really don?t have any control on it & we go on thinking in our old habitual way. We do have certain habits of thinking. They may not be correct.

    So to change the pattern of thinking we have to meditate & correct our perceptions the base on which we think of everything we see in this world.

    Then nothing can come between you & your success.

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    alkima

    10/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    "STEP #1: Decide What?s Normal for You..."
    I have found that Benjamin Franklin's thirteen virtues, could be a set of good personal character traits to follow to increase my chances of success in achieving my goals.

    personal

    *
    Temperance: Abstain from eating and drinking in excess.
    *
    Order: Have a place for all my things; Schedule my personal and business tasks.
    *
    Resolution: Do what you desire with determination until you complete it; do not fail to complete what you have set to do.
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    Frugality: Make expenses to do good to others or yourself; Reduce waste, change costly habits, reduce instant gratification by means of fiscal self-restraint, seek efficiency, avoid traps, defy expensive social norms, embrace free (as in gratis) options, using barter, and stay well-informed about local circumstances and both market and product/service realities. Frugality is not cheapness.
    *
    Moderation: Avoid extremes; Be tolerant or patient in the face of provocation, so much as you think they deserve.
    *
    Industry: Devote your energy to a task or an endeavor; be always employed in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions.
    *
    Cleanliness: Have a habit to be neat and clean with your body, clothes, and home. The purpose of cleanliness include health, beauty, absence of offensive odor, and to avoid the spreading of dirt and contaminants to oneself and others.
    *
    Tranquility: Peace of mind; do not be disturbed by things of little importance or value, or at common or unavoidable accidents.

    Social

    Good social character traits result in other people wanting to do business with you or to have relationships with you.

    *
    Silence: Only speak about what may benefit others or yourself; avoid conversation of little importance or value.
    *
    Sincerity: be open and truthful; avoid hurtful deceit or professing feelings or virtues you do not have; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly.
    *
    Justice: Treat others adequately, fairly, or with full appreciation; don't wrong others by omitting information or actions that can help improve or protect their well-being that are your duty.
    *
    Chastity: Practice or pursue sexual pleasure for health or offspring, never because you are bored, weak, or to injure yourself or another person's peace or reputation.
    *
    Humility: Be concerned of how to be liberated from the sufferings of life and the vexations of the human mind.

    p.g.g

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    j01150126

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Lets look at the opposite side, my side. Actually I don't mind being surrounded by losers. If John Doe was an idiot and spent $6 million on a JIT inventory system that is not compatible with our IT infrastructure it makes me look a heck of a lot better. I found hanging with winners almost always put me in unhealthy competition with people many smarter and more talented than myself. I am genetically dispositioned to be swinging axes in dark ages, with average intelligence, definitely not suited for this information age. I will stick to the losers, get the bonuses and be the man to beat rather than playing catch up. I am also the man ahead of the pack when layoffs come to feed on herd.

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    bsc_gdk

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    The religious angle on this question caught my attention because I'd just read this in Heilbroner's The Making of Economic Society. Writing of the era just after the Middle Ages, he says:
    "...In contrast to the Catholic theologians, who tended to look upon worldly activity as vanity, the Calvinists sanctified and approved of endeavor as a kind of index of spiritual worth...Calvinism thus provided a religious atmosphere that...encouraged wealth-seeking and the temper of a businesslike world...It brought respectability to an ideal of struggle, of material improvement, of economic growth."

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    Ian P

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    bsc_gkd
    Thanks, I'll read the book.
    Guess things haven't changed that much in the last four hundred years or so.

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    jenjen29

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    "Avoid situations where they put pressure on you to indulge in habits ? like gossip, smoking, drinking, overeating, etc."

    Spare me. Countless deals have been done over dinner and drinks.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 30:
    There's a big difference between eating a reasonably sized meal and having a glass of wine and eating 2600 calories at a sitting and getting smashed.

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    MattB242

    11/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Is nobody allowed a hinterland any more? I work pretty hard, I?m not doing so badly, but I refuse to be ?always on? ? I have plenty of friends whose company I enjoy who aren?t going to help me ?succeed? in any way, and any number of activities and interests which aren?t carefully planned to advance my career. Maybe that means I won?t make it to whatever imaginary destination the author thinks matters enough to cut yourself off from the people you love. I suppose I?ll just have to get used to that.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Re Note 32:
    I think you're missing the point. It's not about hanging around people who will advance your career; it's whether your friends are dragging you down or lifting you up. My best friends are 1) a lawyer, 2) a manufacturing assembler, 3) an unemployed medical records clerk. They are all three successful and inspirational in completely different ways.

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    Jent

    11/20/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    Thanks for the interesting posts. I completely agree that the people you surround yourself with affect your energy levels and performance (not only in sales but in any field).

    However, I completely disagree with some of the approaches you recommend (steps 2 & 3):

    a) Surely if you consider a people to be "friends" you are willing to invest some time and effort into creating positive energy within the group? Not everything in life is about personal gain (and I'm an Atheist if anyone is wondering, so religion has nothing to do with my opinion - I just like to believe in human decency).

    b) "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.? (Winston Churchill). If you have a positive outlook on your career and your life in general then you should believe in your ability to bring about positive change. If you are not positive yourself then are you bringing the people around you up? And in that case, why should you expect your family and friends to "bring you up" if you are not doing the same for them?

    c) Sometimes people get down or depressed (which can last for years). Depressed people certainly don't create a positive or "success-orientated" environment. It's exhausting and incredibly difficult to be around them but if you really care about your friends/family (or even care a little bit and posess a shred of common decency) you will stick with them and help them through the rough patches rather than rushing off to help yourself.

    I'm a hard worker and very ambitious but I also care about my family and friends. The thought of casting family/friends off or distancing myself from them just because they are not helping me to obtain success seems extremely callous and very self absorbed.

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    shakeyra

    11/20/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    am proud to be muslims and our religion ask us to work hard and in the field of sales let inform you that our prophet mohamed was merchant, so no shame if you work as sales man in islam

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    raguand16

    11/21/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

    I just thought about copying this url so everybody can read it and get insights as to why some of the hidden insights of:
    - MattB242
    - j01150126

    might just hints as to all these arguments of "up" and "down"

    Geoffrey, as I said before- you need to get around more, travel more, read more practical comments not philosophical research based on "samples" that do not reflect the reality we are living right now or just plain out of context, time and life. Having said that, nonetheless a great topic for discussion and I am sure it is making lots of people think on how they are living or lived their own lives and how they should change outlooks to really succeed in life, not only in Sales.

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    raguand16

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    RE: Hang With Losers = You're a Loser

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