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A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote

September 8th, 2008 @ 5:25 am

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Categories: Cold Calls, Contributors, General, Pitches, Sales Process, Sales Skills, Sales Tips, Watercooler

Tags: Client, Susiepoobies Input, Sales Strategy, Sales Force Management, Sales, Geoffrey James

Face Off!
A reader with the handle “Susiepoobie” recently questioned my use of Tom Hopkins‘ answers in my post “Your Best Response to Three Common Objections.“  She also provided some alternative responses that she felt would work better than Tom’s.

Since Tom Hopkins is pretty much the dean of American sales trainers, I was intrigued.  I have my own views on the relative merits of the different approaches, but I’m curious what you guys think.  Here’s the body of Susiepoobie’s comment, followed by the three objections, Tom’ response, and her responses with her explanation of the reasoning behind it.  Susiepoobies inputs are in italics. 

I’ve added a poll at the end for you to register your opinion. In the post “Three Common Sales Objections Revisited“, I give my own commentary on this issue, but feel free to comment here.

I think your answers to these objections are not only glib but trite and ineffective. I would be turned off if a sales person gave me these type of responses.  A salesperson’s response to any objection should be informative and should engage the customer while demonstrating a sincere interest in addressing his/her need, in order to give the client a reason to continue discourse with you; much less a reason to buy from you… [alternative responses] …Mr. James, if you’re going to give advice, give us some worthwhile red meat to work with. Don’t waste time with trite ineffective filler.

  • Objection: “I can get it cheaper elsewhere.”
  • Tom Hopkins’s Response: “In today’s world we can almost always get something cheaper.  I’ve found that when smart people invest their money they look for three things: the finest quality, the best service and lowest price. However, I’ve also noticed that no company can consistently offer all three-the finest quality and the best service at the lowest price.  Which two of the three are most important to you in the long term?”
  • Suziepoohbie’s Response: “I’m sure you probably can. For example, (XYZ competitor) sells this product for $_. However, they do not offer the lifetime guarantee that we give absolutely free. In the long run you save by buying our Product… Wouldn’t you agree that this would better serve you needs?”
  • Suziepoohbie’s Explanation:   …or something like that. Build value into the purchase. If the customer does not appreciate the value, any price is too high. Oftentimes price is not the real objection, you just haven’t sold him yet.
  • Objection: “I have a friend in the business”
  • Tom Hopkins’s Response: “There’s an old saying - I don’t know how true it is - that sometimes friendship and business don’t mix.  If you bought from a friend you might not say anything if you weren’t happy with the purchase, but with me you can just get on my case until you get what you want.”
  • Suziepoobie’s Response: “Oh, that’s great. Who does he/she work for? Has he/she quoted you a price? What benefits do they offer in your package?” etc. 
  • Suziepoohbie’s Explanation: You would need to ask probing questions to verify if this relationship has benefited the client regarding this purchase. If not, qualify the client, do a needs assessment and proceed to the close.
  • Objection: “I did business with your company in the past and they were unprofessional.”
  • Tom Hopkins’s Response: “I can really appreciate that.  I really hate it when that kind of thing happens to me.  You know, though, suppose the shoe were on the other foot and it was your company that had acted unprofessionally.  You’d probably fire the person responsible. That’s probably what we had to do, and now it’s my job to make certain that you’re treated right.”
  • Suziepoobie’s Response: “I’m so sorry to hear that you had an unpleasant experience with us. Can you tell me about it? When did this take place? etc.” 
  • Suziepoohbie’s Explanation: Calmly and empathetically probe, probe, probe. I’ve done this in the past with an irate client and come to find out our company was partially at fault and so was the client’s. It was only after calmly walking the client through the situation that he came to recognize that there was a misunderstanding on his part as well. I was able to assuage his ill feelings and retrieve the account. He became one of my best clients.  Any discussion with the client of your company firing a previous employee is in very bad taste and totally unnecessary; especially when you don’t know the details. For all you know, the problem could be the client’s fault entirely and if so, you may well look forward to having the same problem with the client again. Address the problem, dismantle it, neutralize it and move on.

And here’s the poll:
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    United Systems

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    My opinion is that both are correct. An experienced sales professional would know when to use them. But my vote goes to Susiepoohbie because these can work at any stage of someones career.

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    Splashmonkey

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Although I can see the merits in Susiepoobie's input, I find that it doesn't keep in mind the need to manage the relationship first. Let the prospect know that you hear what they are saying, not try to "counter" with product/service stats. I found some of the banter in her suggestions to be a little too "pushy"...I agree we need to probe and ask questions but the best sales people listen first, talk less. Sales is about relationship building not explicit one upmanship.

    Again, both options have their merits and a seasoned sales person will know when to use them but I would go the Tom Hopkins route first.

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    rushmore

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    I doubt any specific response works better for every prospect. Sales people have to solve the problems that sometimes the prospect doesn't know they have. Personalities also play a role.

    Probing for more information won't work for impatient controlling types unless they are shown it may be in their interest to give you an answer. For the social types having a friend in the business is more important than being able to complain. They value friendship more and will put up with a certain amount of aggravation.

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    EASTeam

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Absolutely no question this is a case of apples & oranges. Even the usernames are a decent microcosm of the level of disparity, i.e., Tom & Susiespoohbearpoopinwoods aren???t in same league??? Hence, my guess is that that said customer for each wouldn???t be nearly as sophisticated of ???sale??? or approach. Also apples & oranges.

    EX #1
    Unfortunately, Susiespoohbearpoopinwoods falls into a familiar category of sales presentation: present, defend & hope for a positive outcome. Repeat. Whereby Tom demonstrates empathy and then asks relevant qualifying questions to better understand the root cause of the real issue (which is usually not price).

    EX #2
    Excellent rebuttal by Tom. Cuts through the smoke screen, ehh? On the contrary, Susiespoohbearpoopinwoods actually decides this is a perfect time to sell based on Price, quickly followed by Features & Benefits. Great! Now all you have to do is give said prospect MORE for LESS than their ???friend??? ~ good luck with that??? Not the optimal relationship we look for, i.e., competitive. Wouldn???t cooperative or even collaborative be better?

    EX #3
    Near flawless response by Tom. Even flips or spins the conversation ??? the customer now has to put themselves in that situation & retort (ultimately answering their OWN question) ~ that???s flat out brilliant??? On the other hand, Susiespoohbearpoopinwoods suggests PROBING the topic further. BTW, for the record, I have no desire to be probed. What say you? Only 2 words come to my mind: ???alien abduction??? ??? Who cares about right and wrong ??? that was then & this is now??? Let???s assess the real core of issue and move on???that???s the need at hand ??? which apparently has (still) not been met.

    Here???s my rebuttal to #3: ???I see, that???s really unfortunate though it does happen from time to time. In fact, some of my very best clients have said the same thing in OUR first conversation. However, right wrong or otherwise, that still wont fix your (problem). That???s where we may be able to help. Please tell me, would it not make sense to have further dialogue about (problem)? I will then be better able to assess, and if applicable, provide a potential solution. If we are unable to collectively agree on this, that???s ok too??? At least we???ll make our decision based on all the information available. Make sense to you? Great???

    Kirk
    http://easteam.wordpress.com/testimonials/

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Kirkabraham:



    I appreciate the advice and the fact that you bothered to think the issues through and provide such thoughtful and intelligent comment. However, I'd prefer it if you didn't make fun of handles, even those that seem to be an open invitation for ridicule. The ad hominem nature of such attacks actually weakens your argument a bit. Please don't take offense, because I really do respect your contribution to this discourse.

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    rmcgonni

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Perhaps many in the 77% voting for Susie might agree: it was a tie going into #3 but the offhand mention of firing someone says something about the speaker and concedes the point that the Company was at fault. I think TH response #2 was also a bit trite and left open the issue as unresolved.

    Secondly, I don't think you were guilty of a misuse of the "handle" of your correspondent: you simply identified her as you've done in the past. Someone else in the blog may have done so but not you.

    Finally, it's Susie who could afford a lesson in humility and conduct...her "red meat" comment was TWO steps too far for criticism and reveals immaturity, arrogance and a lack of respect for the context of your efforts to assist all of us with good ideas. Also your previously demonstrated willingness to share OTHERS ideas as as good or better....see "Elevator Pitch".

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    rmcgonni

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Minor correction to my prior post...didn't see the "handle" on the critic of the misuse of the handle....YOU were the critic and rightly so! happy

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    Graeme Davidson

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Yet another wonderful post, that makes me question my objection handling - and not just with these 3 situations. It is wonderful that you take the time for these processes, so that I get the opportunity to think through all that I do in my day job.
    Furthermore, I will be using these techniques to train the others around when I can drag myself away from the phone and trying to cause objections so that I can use my new techniques.

    On a slight tangent, what does everyone think of the use of the word "because"?

    I use it all the time after asking for the sale, and no matter what I say after the "because" (I have even completely strayed off the topic at times to see if it works) the percentage of closes are a lot higher than normal.

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    mauipatricia

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Except for Susie's last example, I like Tom's better. People don't buy on facts and figures. People buy on emotion and justify with logic. Not that either were wrong. With a customer in sight you'd obviously tailor the approach.

    Yes-please have a discussion on the use of the "because". Love to read that!

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    ndlicht1

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Sorry Tom but you need to retire.

    I am in my 60's and have been a successful sales person and trainer for many years. Please do not dismiss this as an age or generation gap issue

    His answers are no longer relevant in an age of "smart buyers". In an era of on line searching, Prospects are often now very smart, pre-buy educated and have researched a lot before you get to them and this means we start by respecting their intellect and research.

    They often know about or can compare anything on line and already have. That makes standing out and establishing your own value added in the selling process much harder than in Tom's day.


    1. Maybe its the wording that matters. For instance Tom's use of the term "smart people"- so the prospect is a dunce? "My customers seem to have found that..." is better.

    2. Suzie engages in conversation that shows she has heard the prospect and then directly addresses the prospect's issue or concern with great decision making criterion that she can use to make a difference in usability, reliability, fit for the application and safety of the buy re long term support. This pre-empts and controls the conversation that comes from Tom's objections doesn't it.

    She points out the differences between a cheaper source v hers. She establishes the criterion for comparison v intended results, gets that point across and never insults her prospect.

    Frankly, Suziepoh has it right and again,please let Tom retire since its way overdue.

    Neil Licht

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    scohil

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Generally, Susie's central point is valid: customers are too smart and savvy when it comes to technique. Most will smell the rat in the woodpile and make a stiffer resistance. Further, research by Neil Rackham's team (see "SPIN Selling") pretty conclusively shows that most objections are CAUSED by the sales person's behaviour. So maybe instead of talking about responding to objections, we could look at how top performers prevent them... Just a thought.

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    cimartinez21

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    I'm new the world of sales. After reading Tom's responses, my immediate thought is that they're cliche and cheesy and I would not only feel silly saying them but I wouldn't expect the objection to be resolved. Especially with #2, it just sounds like an invitation into an argument with the customer cause many people really value friends that they can do business with and actually end up getting discounts or special offers with them.

    Susie's answers were real. She responded on a case by case basis with material that supports her argument, rather than with long philophical answers.

    Her answer for #3 really does work and has worked with me in the past with an Amazon representative who interestingly tried Tom's response with me at first (oh that sucks, that person was wrong, but here I am now) and when that only made me angrier and made me question the competency of the whole department, she started to ask me questions until I felt like she was really there to help me.

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    null

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Susiepoobies comments sound more real and direct. I really can't stand salespeak and get irritated when salespeople start with it. Susiepoobie's responses seem genuine, not like generic arguments that one picks up in sales seminars.

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    monger@...

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    Suzie is right. TH responses (and therefore yours suggestions) are now quite outmoded, trite and probably ineffective as a result. Don't treat buyers like they are fools. Work with them in an honest way.

    The TH method was based on manipulating a situation and the buyer.

    Its not what marketing focuses on

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    MikeDennehy

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    RE: A Reader Dings My Advice... You Vote.

    I've greatly enjoyed the thrust and counter-thrust over the last two days as this issue seems to bring out strong opinions from both camps. I doubt that anyone would use the exact language Tom uses in today's business world - the wording is cheesy and glib, and I agree that most buyers these days would spot the scripted response and probably react negatively - I'm sure I would.

    However in #1 I don't believe it's right to name a competitor and their price - prospects often say things to see what your response is and to me it's a sign of panic and weakness to respond that way. You might just drive them to your competitor - better to acknowledge that you can always find someone prepared to sell you something cheaper, but you might go on paying for it for a long time. I prefer Tom's response but worded slightly differently - and definitely not using the "smart people" part.

    With #2 again I prefer Tom's approach if not the wording. Susie's response turns it into a price-and-features competition, whereas Tom's neatly turns it into a "you'd

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