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Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

June 19th, 2008 @ 5:30 am

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Categories: General, Management, Sales Skills, Watercooler

Tags: Sales Strategy, Sales Force Management, Sales, Geoffrey James

The results of your test, sir!

A reader writes:

I recently was interviewed for a sales managment position. The company uses Caliper, a personality assessment tool to make hiring decisions. It’s the first time I have ever had to take a test in over 15 years of sales managment. I was amazed how strongly this company felt about the tool as opposed to face-to-face interviews, references, and experience. While I met with three people, the interviews were NOT assessing whether my experience and the job was a good fit. I filled the gaps by offering up my experience and probing for information to determine exactly what the position entailed. I found the process a bit offensive. How can a test really provide anyone with what could be gained in a well-conducted interview?

As it happens, last month I spent an hour talking with Patrick Sweeney, Caliper’s executive vice president of marketing. He makes a pretty compelling case for the importance of testing when it comes to assessing the ability of a sales professional to fit into any given sales organization. The reasons that companies don’t always trust interviewing if I understand correctly, are:

  • Most people can’t interview worth beans. How many times have you been asked a bonehead question like “what’s the last book you read?” or “what’s your greatest weakness?” Since the “correct” answers to those typical interview questions are available all over the web, it would probably make sense just to print them out and hand them to the interviewer at the beginning of the interview.
  • Sales success doesn’t always transfer. It’s a myth that really great sales reps can sell for virtually anybody. Somebody who’s been a “hunter” for a high tech firm is highly unlikely to be a good “farmer” for a social services provider. Even in similar sales environments, sometimes one’s success is more dependent upon management coaching and the lead generation process, rather than on a rep’s sales skills.
  • First impressions are highly unreliable. Great sales professionals usually present themselves well and make a great first impression. Unfortunately, so do a lot of other people, including con-men, shirkers, and other assorted deadbeats. Job interviews are inherently artificial situations. While an interview can help assess whether you can sell yourself, it doesn’t really tell an employer much more than that.
  • Most of the information is already available. With the advent of the Internet, there’s usually a wealth of information already available about a company, its business model, its culture, and so forth. Because of this, the traditional “let’s talk about where I fit in” discussion is more or less a waste of time. You should already know most of what you need to know about them, and they’ve already checked your LinkedIn profile.
  • The job may require a non-interview sales style. Sales professionals typically think of a job interview as a “sales audition,” with the (logical) assumption that if they demonstrate how well they sell themselves, they’ll show they’re talented at sales. But the company’s business model may require a completely different kind of selling (like long-term account development), in which case the “audition” is wasted effort.

Sweeney claims that his testing methodology is based upon some pretty heavy-duty science. While I’m naturally skeptical of psychological research, I have no particular reason to disbelieve him. So I’m afraid that I think your irritation may be misplaced. In all probability, the company in question has discovered that testing is a better way to recruit successful sales employees than the standard interview process.

Of course, I could be wrong about the effectiveness of testing, so I’m curious what you guys think. Have any of you had experience with this kind of thing? Did you get a job (or not get one) because of a profiling test? And do you think this kind of testing is a good idea?

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    persistance

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    Caliper Test

    I see your point! The question of whether a test is adequate or not to determine a persons ability or potential as a sales person. It is a great question and needs some debate.

    From at least the sales aspect, there are two specific traits that you must have. They are not easily trainable or developable and the Caliper identifies them for us. Ego-Drive & Ego-Strength.

    I applied for a sales job back in 2006 were I was given the Caliper test. And I was amazed by the results. I always felt I was a good sales person, had lots of success but the Caliper test showed me just how good I was.

    I gained so much additional Ego Strength that I know seem unstoppable. My then employer immediately took me on board and our sales department went from 287th in the country to twice being #1 with a three year average at #7.


    Today I run my own negotiation and content engineering firm in Southern Orange County and owe 80% of my success today to what the Caliper did for me.

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    monger@...

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    Such psych tests rely on (some might say questionable) statistical norms. They are based on what some research has found to be the "right sort" of person in the past. Bring on the clones?

    It has been my observation that many people who have in the past done an outstanding (sales) job and who will probably continue to do so may be ruled out of a particular job due to such a psych test.

    True many folk do or don't interview well. But there are also folk who do these tests better than others - because they know how to.

    The designers of such tests of course have a vested interest in promoting them; many users also like them because it provides something to hide behind if the person hired doesn't work out; and the person who has rated highly is going to feel some sort of pride.

    What is needed is a better set of job objectives and a toolbox of techniques

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    Amicus 400

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    as with most things, the use of psychometric tests/personality profiles is a question of balance.

    it's my view that to rely solely on the psychometric tests/ personality profiles in a recruitment process is wrong.that said, relying solely on face-to-face interview interviews is unwise.

    The best way to recruit successfully, is to use a structured selection process which consists of "competence or attribute" interviewing where you ask the candidate to describe their experience in very specific areas that relate to key attributes required to do the job. The views and opinions that gained through this process can then be weighed against the result of the psychometric test. One proviso! The person interpreting the test must be trained to do so.

    The information gained from these two sources provide the insights that are used to conduct referee interviews that are designed to clarify specific issues rather than (as is more usually the case) a generic enquiry.

    For my part, I really amazed that the use of psychometric testing is not more widespread than it currently is.

    In closing, although I appreciate their value, I really do dislike having to do personality tests and psychometric tests.

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    thines515

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    Social Neurocience

    Even before mastering the your product knowledge, your ability to understand how people buy and awareness of the cognitive reasoning that your customer is going through when you interact is of the most important trait a sales person can have.

    You can test for it but it that doesn't completely determine ones potential success.

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    meldot

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    Sales Tests

    The post is amazing because it colors the good and bad of testing. I will be upfront - assessments are my business, so I'm a bit biased toward their use. (Caliper is a competitor of ours but agree with everything Mr. Sweeney said.)

    But I also agree 100% with the reader who questioned the process he experienced. The assessment should never be used as a substitute for a good interview. The most significant problem these days is that the interviewees are often more prepared for the interview than the managers. My recommendations when that happens is simple - just keep looking. If the manager's first impression is weak, how do they handle other aspects of management.

    On the other hand, it's not the assessment that lacks predictablity but how the managers use them. The results have to be put in some context - it may be as simple as "can the candidate sell the type of product or service?" Or "will he be a good match for the clients?" Or can he sell "knowledge" based services vs. transactions? Experience and resumes won't reveal potential either. So the assessment may play in the candidate's favor if the experience isn't a match, but the assessment reveals potential.

    When working with our clients, we have likely uncovered as many diamonds in the rough as we have prevented an employer from hiring the wrong candidate (or the wrong candidate being offered a position in which he was doomed.

    Like anything else, when used correctly assessments are a phenomenal tool. It sounds like the reader just had a bad experience but I can assure you there are a lot of companies using assessments correctly. Keep looking - they generally are the best places to work!

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    mrosenthal

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    Let me guess the personality assessment indicated your profile was not a match? I'm sure you would have found the process just as offensive if they offered you the job, right?

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    farasee

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    I did a consulting stint with a pharma firm 2 years ago where we developed a psychological screening system for candidates that were already hired, to try and predict who was what, and after only 6 months, the "dogs" had left the job, while the "stars" had been promoted. So, I tend to agree, there are certain screening questions that can give away a lot about sales people.... no matter how good actors they are

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    dhruvdp

    06/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    What kind of tests are these?.. are there pre defined answers/judging standards?

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    bruce7890

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Relationships and Fit

    An associate put me onto this and its, an interesting post, particularly around the two points below, which I'd agree with most strongly.

    * Sales success doesn?t always transfer.
    * First impressions are highly unreliable.

    My own work focuses on relationships and fit (in the main). The assumption being that generally speaking, optimal performance (in any disicpline) comes from optimal relationships. The links below illustrate these ideas via short software demos.

    Recruitment
    http://www.fourgroups.com/solutions/recruitment_strategy.html

    Team Building
    http://www.fourgroups.com/solutions/team_building.html

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    Jack Pierce

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    You're only 15 to 20 years behind on this story. I was a partner in a firm that sold these kinds of tests that long ago. Maybe you should do more homework before writing.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Gosh!

    That email from the reader who'd never encountered anything like this before must have come from the past through a time warp! That's amazing! I didn't even know that they had emails back then.

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    rgcomega

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Shrink Your Ego

    Generally speaking, I would hope that any company wants the best talent available, within parameters of a particular job description of course. And most candidates should also want to work for the best company. So the importance of the vetting process is mutual, and as long as that process remains professional it should never be viewed as "offensive", rather a challenge. The only time I have found an interview offensive is when I was not been treated with respect, or when an individual interviewer was an unprepared twit. I would also add, when is the last time anyone experienced "a well conducted interview?"

    How a company interviews often says much more about the company than their brass band touting medical benefits and vacation policy because it depicts the importance they place in the quality of the people they hire. The mere fact that a company has added Caliper as a tool in their evaluation process seems like a positive, as long as it is a tested and relatively reliable tool, and as long as it remains just that???.a tool. A test in itself should never be the final arbiter in candidate assessment.

    As for the candidate, however, they need to be mindful that their objective is singular, to prove to the prospective employer they are head and shoulders best qualified for the position. Often times, obstacles are placed in your path on purpose, as a test. In this case, if the reader who wrote in can't sell themself, including having to dance around a test, then in what way did they convince the company they were the right person for a sales management position. I would wonder at least a little if they are as great a salesperson/manager as they think they are. No tiger here!

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    CBragg

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    Absolutely! The test is not a one-and-done or sure fire way to determine a candidates fit or liklihood of success but it does offer another view and one that goes below the surface.
    I would never hire anyone without putting them through a test.

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    mac4141

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Careful of too much HR!

    I was hired to a top management position a few years ago based on this kind of test so I guess I shouldn't be negative about it. And I'm not, truly, providing the test is part of a person-to-person experience. Without this, I cannot imagine hiring great performers and keeping them. One huge problem that I've seen recently is that too many companies rely almost entirely on the HR departments to accept, screen, then either pass or fail resumes and applications. Where is the sales manager's input? Yeah, yeah, you're busy. Are you too busy to hire top talent? Too many potential stars never even get to the interview or testing stage because their resumes don't fit some HR department's "one from calun A, one from column B" template.

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    stevebergg

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    I have in the past gone with and against testing tools. Over teh long haul, the tool wins out. Most of us hiring sales rep's came up through the ranks selling. We LOVE to be sold. We can fall in love with a guy who really wows us with great interview technique.

    However, this only tells us how well they can conduct themselves in a meeting. Motivation, organization and good character are all at least as important. All that siad, I sometimes just go with my gut and ignore a test, and sometimes it workks out!

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    darinp

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Tests are illegal unless valid and reliable

    The Department of Labor has been very clear on what companies can and cannot do or use when basing selection or promotion decisions on tests ( http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/cfr/41cfr/toc_Chapt60/60_3_toc.htm ). The test must be reliable (test what it is intended to test) and valid (statistical evidence must support that it is getting your company the desired results). Title VII also points out that the test must also avoid adverse/disparate impact (discriminating against protected classes, even unintentionally). I have been involved in research where the test was valid (and thus reliable by default), but it would have prevented the company from hiring women of color as they all failed the test. That was NOT a legal test.

    We recently reviewed over a dozen top-tier vendors of behavioral sales aptitude assessments and found only two that followed a procedure that provided us with evidence that their test was both valid and non-discriminatory. We ended up selecting Profiles International's product due to the relationship that was fostered by their top sales person, Mike Hopkins.

    However, we are not foolish enough to rely only on the test to make a selection decision. Based on a job analysis we identified the price of admission competencies (commodities such as computer savvy and almost-innate such as listening skills). We prioritized the competencies and built two selection tools that we then validated as well: behavioral interview guide and work simulation. In addition, we have several 'unscored' interviews built into our selection process so that candidates also have an opportunity to interview us as a company. We want employees that want to be here and have taken the time to determine that prior to being hired!

    If you are looking into testing as one of the elements of your selection process, make certain that you follow established best practices and don't just buy something that is cheap or has a great sales pitch attached to it. You can get yourself into a LOT of trouble down the road. The steps involved in validating the test are not that burdensome.

    Darin Phillips
    http://darinphillips.blogspot.com/search/label/selection%20process for more thoughts on selection

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    JacquesWerth

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Behavioral Profiling is Better

    We and our clients have used many different personality profiling companies. Then, we discovered Behavioral Profiling by Pinnacle Group International. They are the best, most thorough, and accurate predictors of sales success that we have seen. In addition, they can determine whether the candidate will be compatible with the person he/she will report to and the culture of the company.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Guerrilla Marketing Going On?

    Hmmm.... Several comments above are starting to sound like somebody from a testing firm called a customer and convinced them to shill on this board.

    I'm not saying that's what's happening, but I always wonder when company names start popping up.

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    russellr@...

    06/20/08 | Report as spam

    Personality tests and correlation with performance

    I think it's been touched on a few times in this discussion but for me the "pretty heavy-duty science" mentioned is never revealed... because it doesn't exist. It would have to represent a strikingly obvious correlation between a specific suite of measurable personality traits and set work performance targets (ie sales success in this example) and it it would need to be long term to 'prove' anything. It's as reliable as astrology, frankly. If you look at the past HRM and psych research you find behavioural interviews have the best correlation with later performance, and it's still pretty poor. Plain old interviews don't rate well. And psychometric tests come after that. Think about it - who actually tells the truth in a psychometric test? You will spin it to win it. And even if they are "honest" in their answers you will get a wide variety of interpretations. You end up with doubtful results. And then you match those doubts against work success... over the long term? People don't work like machines, they have ups and downs, get motivated, lose motivation... it's far more complicated than a 'personality test' would show. It's just another way to discriminate, and you get to clone yourself. And cloning yourself is not diverse. Bottom line, it's just wrong, sorry.

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    meditator

    06/22/08 | Report as spam

    Personality Assessments

    Having spent 12 years in that industry, I can tell you that there are good assessments and not so good assessments. The key to using any assessment in the selection process is to integrate it into the process. What I mean by that is for the assessment company and the hiring manager both have a very clear understanding of what the job is all about. From experience I can tell you that they do not always have that understanding. Depending on the organization, and the tenure of the hiring manager in the role, the assessment company may have a better understanding and sometimes neither is particularly clear.

    Personality assessments should never be a sole determinant of "fit" to a role. But sometimes they are used that way. One of the things that assessments do very well is give insight into behavior. This is something that interviewers often times do not have the skill to extract and interviewees will spin so that they win the job.

    Hiring managers rarely look at a single candidate through the lense of a personality assessment. As such they are looking at 1 or 2 or maybe 3 other candidates that they like as much as like you. Assessments can help the manager prioritize the candidates and contextualize their perceptions of your interview, experience as it relates to the requirements of their particular role and your track record.

    In the end personality assessments are not fool proof. There are and will always be individuals who appear to "defy gravity". They succeed though it appears that they would not. The issue with candidates that defy gravity is that if you had 100 candidates that looked like they might "defy gravity" in reality less than 10% actually do. Hiring Managers don't like those kind of odds, would you?

    The best thing that you can do if you are asked to take a personality assessment as a part of the hiring process is ask a few simple questions. How will you use this information? Will you share it with me? What criteria does the assessment company use to determine fit? Will you share that with me? Will I have another opportunity to position my strengths against the role and discuss potential developmental needs identified by the assessment? What do you do with the information once the selection decision has been made?

    I hope that this is helpful. As you can probably tell I believe in personality assessments. I have seen them work fantastically, but also fail because they were misused/misunderstood. Chances are that if you hired by an organization that uses a personality assessment that you have a better chance of being successful in the role. I say better because many things factor into your success besides your performance. Conversely, if you were not selected in a process where an assessment was used, it is quite possible that you were identified as a fit but not selected because they identified a better fit, no chemistry with hiring manager, or and I have seen this happen - you sabotaged yourself in your reaction to being asked to take a personality assessment.

    Hope that this is helpful.

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    J-Shelton1@...

    06/22/08 | Report as spam

    Use with standard interviewing.

    There are many tests available to determine the inner drive, strengths and weaknesses of individuals. Some have been around for decades, like DISC Behavior Style Anaylisis, and due to the number of people having taken the tests over years, prove to be highly reliable.
    Since I have hired both great people and not so great, I use them to help confirm my assessment of the person, not as a replacement for the personal interview.
    For example, if you're hiring someone who will be working alone most of the time, then the DISC Profile will indicate whether they will do well in that environment and vice versa.
    The cost of hiring the wrong person is so significant that anything to help you make the right decision is well worth the time and cost.
    Jack

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    MMIIKKEE

    06/22/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    Gee, I thought that sitting down and TALKING to a person, reviewing the persons background and references.... oh, what am I saying... I am writing to a bunch of readers that probably think CRM is a great sales tool... oh well. Come on people, really.

    I took one of those tests a while back that my company forced me to take, got the results, threw them in the trash un-opened. When I stop booking business, then you know I failed the test.

    I bet you can go on-line and get the 'right answers' for whatever freak'in job you want. Won't waste my time looking, however.

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    ndlicht1

    06/23/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    Its not talent that you need to worry about, its job fit. Remember, a good sales person can "sell you' but interviews can not reveal if their core traits and behaviors are really precisely right for success in your market, your channel and with your type of customer. Personality tests do not apply what is revealed to precisely if a person can suvcceed at your job. Core traits assessment tools do that (ex www.ucanpreventbadhires.com)

    Caliper Assessment tools measure personality but do not reveal anything about a good job fit as described above.


    Traits and behavior based do that and they are very helpful in hiring right the first time. First, you do a benchmark traits assessment of your top performers. It reveals exactly what nmakes them successful in your world. Next use it as a benchmark and assess candidates and your existing people against it.

    Its quite revealing re job fir and more so why all of your people are not the rainmakers they should be. Don't hire without it.

    goto this discussion for some insights on assessment tools v interviewing.
    http://ucanpreventbadhires.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

    Regards, Neil licht answers@ucanpreventbadhires.com 508-341-9563

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    ndlicht1

    06/23/08 | Report as spam

    How many 90 day "test drives" have failed to deliver?

    Asak your self about how many 90 day probation periods ended in a bad match- we all have this happen and too often.

    It's not you or your hiring-management effectiveness that cause this bad or missmatchged hire, its improper "Job-fit / Job Match" screening, says Harvard Business Review. In particular, its traits/behaviors, not personality assessment tools that help you be sure of a candidates job fit. Thats all hidden under the hood.

    Your employee's skills may fit perfectly but their behavioral traits, how they specifically do the job, manage tasks, even respond to your management style dosn't!


    A Harvard Business Review's study concludes that "Job Match" is by far the most reliable predictor of effectiveness on the job. The study considered many factors including the age, sex, race, education and experience of approximately 300,000 subjects.

    Harvard Business School's Solution: The only reliable method for evaluating "Job Match" is with a properly designed assessment instrument, capable of measuring the essential job-related characteristics particular to each specific job "It's not experience that counts or college degrees or other accepted factors; success hinges on a fit with the job."

    The Harvard study states that well designed employment assessment tools can help you make that job fit, control hiring right the first time, increase employee performance and get better performance

    ANSWERS On Line Assessment Tools for Employee Hiring, Job-Fit Matching, Retention, Development, Leadership and Succession Planning help you understand how to address those issues

    Poke around the site for ideas and solutions at

    http://www.ucanpreventbadhires.com/

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    06/23/08 | Report as spam

    SPAM

    Hey, one post promoting your business is more than enough. More than that is SPAM. Cut it out.

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    ramyelshal

    06/24/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    I have seen recruitment failure with employees who have been starbright in the interviews and within or even after probation the faild to meet expectations
    \in the meantime I have seen tests specially these multiple choices questions and i never believed they r effecient

    what i do believe is that you should have a combination, and I tried a nice trick to pull everything ot of the applicant in the interview .. give an appointment at 8:00 and let him stay alone waiting in a small vague light room and then show up at 9:30, his nerves will fal and any mask he puts will be crushed and he or she is all yours. in fact it is inspired by security agencies interrogation and it worked for me though seemingly little bit inhumane

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    debbie247

    05/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    I just took at test for a manager position and it was going very well until I took the test and failed and I actually was being honest.
    The test is to see if you are deceitful, have a drug use problem, will sew the company if you were to fall down. Should never be on time all the I have never thought their was a reasonable reason for one not to be on time to work. Yet I failed how can that be.
    I don't use drugs, I get to work on time, I don't call in sick and I wouldn't so the company for no reason yet I FAILED...this profile test and I was done. When a person taking the same test had needles holding her pants up talked about living with the manager during the interview passes!

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    Salesman1997

    05/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Can a Test Reveal Sales Talent?

    It's obvious that I did not get the job as a sales rep. I guess it doesn't matter that I have countless sales awards and amazing references and a solid work history. The test that I took was from Caliper it was like the MMPI and I felt as if I was back in elementary school. Distinguish between groupings of letters and numbers in addition what is the spacial difference multiplied by x? Do I really need to know these things to sell booze. Don't call me an idiot-- i studied EEG ( electroneurodiagnostics ) at the National Naval Medical Center when I was 20. In a recession such as this one that we are living, these tests can kiss my royal welsh -----. You get the picture. Taking a test like I took from Caliper was like taking the SAT on steriods. I am not trying to go to college- i just need a job. Not for nothing but half the sales reps don't have college degrees nor have they served their country. I have completed both. These tests suck.

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