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The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

May 21st, 2009 @ 4:30 am

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Categories: Contributors, General, Sales Skills, Sales Technology

Tags: Sales Strategy, Sales Force Management, Sales, Geoffrey James

Today I’m trying something different.  I’m at the Sales 2.0 conference in Boston and will be providing a “running update” of everything that happens here.   The conference (sponsored by one of my publishers SellingPower) tends to feature real-life customer stories about how they use technology.  I’ll be taking notes and sharing my first impressions with you as the conference proceeds.

My overall impression of the conference was that the technology really does represent something entirely new and potentially very powerful.  It extends measurement into areas, like lead generation, where there had been too much finger-pointing and not enough truth-telling.  As for the conference itself; it was flawlessly run, very high tech, fast-paced, and probably one of the best events I’ve ever attended.

Here’s my blow-by-blow comments, entered as I was attending:

7:30: Breakfast: The conference is at the Boston Fairmont, arguably the poshest hotel in Boston.  Most of the conferences I’ve attended in the past were computer industry events and thus pretty bare bones.  The meeting room is all baroque ornamentation, so it’s almost like sitting inside an enormous hatbox.  At one end of the room is bandstand in the form of a half-shell clam, like Botticelli’s Venus.

Based upon what I’ve seen so far of the attendees, I’d have to say that they were split about half and half between vendor folk and customers of the vendor folk.  That’s unusual because most business conferences tend to be filled with vendor marketing folk, with nary a customer to be found.  I consider this a good sign because the point of coming to this conference (for me) is to hear some real customer stories, not to hear vendors spout marketing jargon.

OPENING REMARKS: Gerhard Gschwandtner, the publisher and founder of Selling Power is setting the stage for the rest of the conference.  He revealed some interesting facts about selling during a recession:

  • You need 15 to 20 percent more prospects to makes the same revenue as before the recession.
  • 22 percent of deals are lost to “no sale” which means that it was never a real opportunity.
  • It takes 20 to 30 percent longer to close a sale than before the recession.

KEYNOTE: The speaker, Eric Berridge, CEO of Bluewolf (company that does CRM integration) gave a great definition of what Sales 2.0 is all about.  (More on this in a future post.)  He also provided some interesting statistics based upon why customers buy B2B.  Here’s the mix:

  • 16 percent politics
  • 23 percent chemistry
  • 32 percent trust and understanding
  • 29 percent solution

What’s cool about this data is that YOU, the sales rep, have control or major influence over most of those elements!

SALES LEAD MANAGEMENT 2.0: This session has sales managers fromsome pretty impressive companies explaining how they use Sales 2.0 tools to generate better leads.  The most interesting characteristic of each presentation was that the impact was measured and quantified.  A fair amount of talk about ROMI (Return on Marketing Investment) — a much needed concept inside most companies. The vendors that the sales managers recommended were InsideView, SalesGenie, Lead Dogs and Jigsaw.  Two of the sales managers slammed Hoovers as being not very good at B2B contact data, which was unusual since Hoovers is a conference sponsor.  Most conference shy away from that kind of criticism, but in this case it adds credibility that the viewpoints are honest.  Presenters were:

  • Travis Fore, senior vice president of sales and service at Network Solutions, the web-hosting firm.
  • Daniel Maier, vice president of worldwide inside sales at Mathcad PTC, an engineering software firm
  • Albert Springall, a senior marketing manager at Microsoft’s Dynamics group
  • Glenn W. Haertel, an executive vice president at SynQ Solutions, a marketing strategy firm

CUSTOTER ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES: The most interesting presenter was Kieth Matthews, whose company used ConnectAndSell to create a pipeline that had more opportuntiies in it than his organization was capable of developing.  They’re a $125 million company and they’ve got $200 million the pipeline and are targetting $1 billion.  It’s kinda the opposite problem that most companies are having — getting good leads.   One of the presenters was from the market research firm IDC who actually said “there are lies, damn lies and IDC statistics.”  Alwasy suspected that was the case, but it was refreshing to hear an IDC analyst admit it.  Presenters were:

  • Keith Matthews, the executive vice president and co-chairman of Kelron Logistics, a provider of transportation solutions.
  • Barry Trailer, a partner at the sales-oriented research firm CSO Insights
  • Thomas J. Gaydos Jr., the director of marketing at Evolve IP, an Internet telephony provider,
  • Stephen Drake, the program vice president for mobility and telecom at the market researdch firm IDC

SALES PROCESS 2.0: The main thrust of the discussion is how measurement demands changes in the sales culture.  It’s become sadly clear to me that a lot of sales reps life in a world of information poverty.  They don’t know much about their prospects and customers.  When they’ve got all that information, though, the salest team no longer has any excuses for not moving a sale forward.  The new sales rep can’t be afraid to be measured, and can’t blame marketing for providing poor leads.  I think this is going to be scary for some folks. The most interesting presenter was the guy from PWC, which has provided sales training to 5000 its consultants and partners (not the sales staff; they only have 132 of these).  His claim is that PWC is doing fine with revenues during the recession while his competitors are all laying off.  Presenters were:

  • Barry Trailer, a partner at the sales-oriented research firm CSO Insights
  • Kelli Stephenson, the vice president of sales effectiveness at Experian, a credit reporting firm
  • Jeffrey S. Kaufman, a partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers
  • Mark Myette, the director of the sales center of learning and performance at Pitney Bowes, a provider of office supplies and services
  • Ryan Bott, the acting director of inside sales strategies at Cymphonix, an Internet security firm

CULTURE OF MEASUREMENT: One of the upsides of measurement is that you can use a tool like Xactly to find out what your commission will be on an upcoming sale.  That way, if your management is clever about setting compensation so that it promotes corporate goals, you can align your activities so that you make the most money AND have the best impact on your firm.  (Which is not, alas, always the case.)   Profesor Olroyd revealed some interest facts about responding to web site queries.  Essentially, if you don’t respond within 20 minutes with a phone call, you can kiss that prospect goodbye.  That’s a bit of an oversimplification, but apparently even a self-identified prospect doesn’t remain a prospect for very long.  Presenters are;

SOCIAL NETWORKING: Nigel (he’s English, who woulda thunk it with that name?) explained that getting involed in a social networking site with a prospect prior to calling can increase your likelihood of getting an appointment by by 8 times.  On the other hand, there’s a little silliness going on here.  Watching Twitter ain’t research, which is what one of the speakers was seemingly pretending it was.  In a surprise move, a guy from Microsoft pointed out that most of the time people are just wasting time when they’re on Twitter and Facebook, doing social things that have no tie in with sales activity.  The answer from the panel is that you have to compenstate people correctly.  Presenters are:

  • Trish Bertuzzi, the president of The Bridge Group, a group that helps technology companies with inside sales.
  • Kady Chiu, the founder of Kadidid Marketing Consulting, a firm that specializes in the practical applications of social networking.
  • Nigel Edelshain, the CEO of Sales 2.0 LLC (and reputedly the inventor of the “Sales 2.0″ buzzword)
  • Anneke Seley, the CEO of PhoneWorks, a service firm that help companies with inside sales.

Nice cocktail hour afterwards, with free drinks.  I introduced myself to most of the vendors, which were a pretty select group.  Overall, an excellent experience from top to bottom.

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    upshift

    05/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    When companies start using statistics, that have very little
    background as to where they come from, sample size..etc.,

    I immediately question the authenticity.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    05/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    Re: Note 1:
    The data seemed reasonably substantiated. Some of the data presented was from academics, who were using statistical methodologies. But I agree that statistics can't always be taken at face value.

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    joannesblack

    05/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    Great review of the Sales 2.0 conference and cutting-edge information. Thanks for the recap!

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    dnour

    05/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    I attended the last one in San Francisco back in Feb. With a couple of exceptions, other than advertising for the sponsoring companies disguised as "case studies," found little value in the investment of time and money. Most attendees in the room were junior business stature at best.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    05/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    Re: Note 4:
    Gee, I was at the SF conference, too. The "case studies" to which you refer were all presented by actual customers of the sponsoring vendors. They were low-level (i.e. sales managers rather than CEOs) because Sales 2.0 consists of tactical tools.

    The presence of such customers at the conference is actually quite significant. My experience (which includes six years marketing software products for a Fortune 50 firm) is that it is generally quite difficult to get a customer -- even a successful one -- to publicly endorse a product.

    Furthermore, when such endorsements take place, they typically take the form of a vendor-written story with a quote from a customer source. That quote is generally run though the customer's PR group and is worded to be as bland as possible.

    I've been to dozens of computer industry conferences. It's highly unusual to have customers of software products stand up in an uncontrolled forum and express an opinion about a product and provide exact numbers and quantification of its impact.

    Apparently, you're more impressed by CEOs and marketing dweebs giving bloated speeches full of vague biz-blab than actual customers giving actual ROI figures. If so, I'm sure you'll have no problem whatsoever finding other conferences more to your taste.

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    rlesser

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    RE: The Sales 2.0 Conference Post

    Thanks Geoffrey for the great overview of the Conference. I wish my prose could be as fine as yours!

    I attended both the San Francisco and Boston Sales 2.0 Conferences.

    I agree with dnour that some of the presentations in SF were pitches with little value to the audience.

    That changed in Boston. Although most of the presenters were again sponsored by a vendor, the value and credibility of each presenter was much higher.

    The Sales 2.0 movement is young so practitioners and end users are sparse now but will build over time.

    Overall I found both events to be a great learning experience.

    For my Tweets and links to blog posts and photos from the event, please see: www.twitter.com/RobertLesser

    Warning: my journalistic skills don't hold a candle to those of Geoffrey happy

    Blog: http://www.directimpactnow.com/leadgentools/blog/index.php

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