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Should Sales Run the Company?

January 21st, 2008 @ 4:25 am

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Profit and LossThis question keeps coming up, so I’m going to answer it. Let’s start with the basics:

The only reason a for-profit business exists is to make profitable sales.

Read that last sentence three times, because there’s an entire MBA’s worth of business wisdom in it. If you believe that statement is true, then the follow must also be true:

In a for-profit business, every job has a single purpose — to help profitable sales take place.

Therefore, the value of EVERY activity inside EVERY for-profit business can be assessed by two criteria:

  1. Does it generate qualified leads, resulting in more sales, thereby increasing revenue?
  2. Does it reduce the cost of sales or cost of goods, thereby making the average sale more profitable?

Considering all of the above, the four major “non-sales” functions can therefore be defined as follows:

  • Marketing — Every marketing activity should either attract new customers (generate qualified leads) or make it easier for sales to close business (reduce the cost of sales.) For example, a direct mail campaign is wasted money unless it attracts new customers, thereby potentially increasing revenue. Similarly, a “branding” exercise is stupid and pointless unless it creates credibility that makes it easier for sales to close business, thereby reducing the cost of sales.
  • Engineering — Every activity that’s funded in Engineering should be to design new products and services that existing and future customers want, thereby making it easier to attract new customers, thereby increasing the revenue stream. New product design that results in products that can’t be sold or that nobody wants to buy is wasted effort; pure research (ala IBM Research) is wasted money if there’s no hope of a salable product eventually resulting from the process.
  • Manufacturing — Every activity should be focused on building high quality products that attract new customers, while reducing manufacturing and distribution costs. While those costs aren’t traditionally counted as a “cost of sales”, they are really the same thing, because both cost of sales and cost of goods are only meaningful concepts if a sale actually takes place.
  • Management — Despite all the blah-blah-blah about “leadership,” in the end a CEO’s only important jobs are to 1) sell the company to the public as a spokesperson, and 2) make sure that every other department in the company serves the needs of the Sales group. And don’t try to tell me that the CEO has an important job representing the company to investors. What investors want are more revenue and more profit. Everything else is just so much BS.

Does this mean that the Sales group should be performing all these functions? The answer is no. Not because they couldn’t do it, but because it’s a waste of selling talent. People who can sell — really sell — have got no business pushing pencils in the back office.

Instead, the Sales group should be telling these other groups what they must do, at least in a general sense, in order to ensure that profitable sales continue to happen. More importantly, all activity in all those groups must be measured and compensated based upon whether those profitable sales eventually take place.

So let’s restate the question:

Q: Should the Sales function drive the entire company?

A: Absolutely.

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    thorlaser

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Q: Should the Sales function drive the entire company?

    Sales should only have access to the gas pedal. They are generally shortsighted
    and should not be allowed to get their hands on the wheel. Thats the job of
    marketing (they get to play with the sat nav too). Obviously Finance should
    check the fuel gauge, Operations (engineering / logistics) should make sure the
    mechanics are in good order. Legal should advise which side of the road to be
    on and when there is a red light coming up. CEO gets to sit in the driving seat
    and make sure that they all work together smoothly whilst smiling out the
    window to the adoring customers and shareholders + take the glory (or flack
    when the gears start crashing).

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    rafa1702

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    more than just the accelerator

    Nice try. I take you're not in sales. Sales should have access to the gas pedal AND the wheel. Marketing plays with the Sat Nav, sometimes they give the right direction, sometimes they don't. Sometimes Marketing doesn't even have the Sat Nav, so they need to ask for directions and point sales on the right way. Yes, the rest of your analogies are fine as well, but then again, the purpose of having fuel, and making sure mechanics are in order is to ensure sales can actually drive the car with certain guarantees of finishing the race in the top positions. The CEO sits on the copilot seat, or stays on the pits wit the team receiving all info as it comes to him/her and making decisions for the current race or the next one, such as: do I have the right pilot? the right mechanics? the right team? etc...

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Lame analogy

    Your analogy divorces business activity from its point, which is to make a profit. Your analogy implies there's some other, undefined purpose to a corporation -- that it's going "somewhere". And your analogy doesn't even even mention customers.

    In any case, there are better travel analogies. How about this:

    A company is a donkey cart. Sales is the donkey, doing all the hard work. The CEO is the guy in front holding the carrot and the stick. Engineering and manufacturing repair the wheels when they break. Marketing is running a focus group of the fleas living on the donkey's rear end.

    That makes just about as much sense as your analogy.

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    upshift

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Donkey Analogy

    Not a bad analogy.

    Some possible revisions are:
    The CEO has to pick the correct destination, which means that both speed and direction are very important.

    The role of marketing is to create more carrots to chase, (in the form of new customers), for the sales force to remain enthused.
    (The focus group analogy was quite funny however.)

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    k2times

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Well said...

    While I think it's important that the entire organization is sales-focused and tuned to listen to sales as 'the voice of the customer', the suggestion that sales should oversee all functions is the type of blustery, impetuous thinking that's a good example of why sales shouldn't.

    In other words, salespeople - good salespeople - are trained to build relationships, to maximize revenue (NOT profit - in most circumstances) and to, in two words, close business. This is often at odds with building profitability - as salespeople want to build relationships they also therefore want to provide their customers with the most competitive deals they can provide, the most desirable entertainment/gifts possible, etc.

    Mr. James has a valid point, but just like the political rhetoric we're increasingly all so tired of, this is not a choice between black and white, or one ideology over another. While it might prove to be popular blog fodder to flame bait with a steady stream of 'sales is better than marketing'-type articles, this argument is akin to one claiming that the lungs are more important than the kidneys. In the end, it is in their synergy that the system works best - not when one is telling the other how to do its job.

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    peter@...

    01/23/08 | Report as spam

    Is it thoruoghbreds led by donkeys?

    Maybe this is an example of a total failure to understand how to both manage and motivate a salesforece.

    A very old fashioned view is to target the sales team to maximise revenue if you do then its is the management focus that is wrong you cannot blame the sales team for doing what they are targetted (asked) to do.

    If you base your commission schemes or reward packages on achieving revenue then that is exactly what the sales team will do - again a management driven outcome.

    Good sales people are not trained to achieve revenue they are trained to maximise the profitability of the accounts that they manage. If the company training is focussed on revenue generation again it calls into question the approach and focus of the management team (who dictate the content of the training programmes)

    You then go on to say that sales people want to build relationships with the clients and therefore they want to provide them with the most competetive deals or "gifts".

    Again this shows a sales management approach that is 20 years out of date and belittles both the integrity and comitment of every single salesperson taking generalisation to a fine art. It implies that no sales person has any loyalty or commitment to the company that employs them and this is blantantly not the case.

    It implies that the sales person has no professional sales or interpersonal skills and that they are incapable of selling on any other basis than that of offering the lowest price - now that is an outdated management view (lets go back to calling them reps.

    There are circumstances where the sales person over empathises with the customer this again is often at as a result of how they are managed and motivated. A salesperson who has everyday contact with his/her clients but very little with their own company may in fact begin to consider the needs of the client above the company which again begs the question of how they are being managed/motivated.

    Finally it is also insulting to customers to say that they will buy on price and price alone.

    If all of the above is true we dont need the expensive overhead of a sales team lets just offer the cheapest price and sit back to handle the flood of cutomers beating a path to our door

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    ptiseo

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Minor Comment

    "Good sales people are not trained to achieve revenue they are trained to maximise the profitability of the accounts that they manage."

    Didn't realize it was mutually exclusive.

    IMO, good sales people are trained to achieve revenue AND are trained to maximize the profitability of the accounts that they manage.

    It's important to note that while Sales must participate in profitability, should they solely drive it? I would argue (strongly) that this is where Mr. James argument falls apart. Profitability is a complex mix of factors, many of which leave the purview of the Sales group.

    So, in your opinion, is Mr. James right? Should Sales run the company?

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Costs

    While cost of goods is not under the direct control of the sales group, a properly informed sales group should be able to find out the profitability of each sale. In any case, the cost of sales usually isn't under the control of the sales group either, since much of that cost is often gobbled up with useless and ineffective marketing.

    One of the great outrages of GAAP is that the SGA line folds sales costs in with marketing costs and the expenses generated by the executives and their bloated staffs. If those costs were broken out, and investors could see how much profit is wasted on marketing and executive perks, most companies would be better run -- or risk the wrath of disgruntled investors.

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    FELDMAN3100@...

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    NO!

    Business exists in order to produce a product or service which the customer needs, at a price which the customer is willing to pay in an "environment" which makes the customer happy to do business with you instead of your competitor.

    Business should be run by a small team of people representing all the disciplines required to accomplish that objective and that team should have total responsibility for the results. Teams always need a leader called the CEO.

    Thank You,
    Lee Feldman

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    dreed8322

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Should Sales Run The Company

    I agree, sales should not run the company even though they are the ones that generate the revenue to maintain the company. There should be one team with a leader from each division including the CEO. This team will gather any information collectively to determine what they need to do in order to increase sales while decreasing the cost of marketing.

    Daniel Reed

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    jazz568

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    Ditto !

    Ditto. I agree that sales is a function that holds the life line of the company but sales people execute based on the directive of the management. CEO and management sets strategy and then breaks it down to pragmatic tactical directions and executable actions/tasks for all the functional departments to follow. Having Sales drive everything will drive the company to wonderland. Sales may be the engine, but the CEO/management steers the wheel.

    Rex

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    ljthorsen

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Should Sales Run the Company?

    While I agree with many of the points made in this article, it neglects two
    important principles:

    1) While sales people may THINK they could perform all those other functions,
    they usually lack the expertise and their personalities are not suited to those
    tasks. Saying that sales people could do these things but it isn't worth their
    time is disrespectful to highly skilled people who perform those functions.

    2) There is a BIG distinction between the "sales function" which could be a
    single channel--a group of direct sales reps, for example--and the part of the
    company's go-to-market effort that chooses which channels it will use and
    enables them to do their job. If a single channel runs the company, the answer
    will never be "use a different channel".

    3) Marketing (in the broadest possible sense of the term) should be driving,
    which does not necessarily mean people with a Marketing title. It usually
    means that the company's top executives including the CEO and the board
    form a team that works out strategy: what the company will offer, how it will
    go to market, how it will partner, and how it will succeed vs. competition. The
    sales function is only one piece of this strategy.

    4) All that said, should people in those other functions be sensitive to how
    their roles can impact the sales rep's job, making it harder or easier?
    Absolutely. But the same is true for all the other functions.

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    chriskoerber

    01/22/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Should Sales Run the Company?

    Excellent point! Thanks for the reminder.

    Sometimes as a small biz owner, it's easy to get distracted and forget the real reason why I'm in business...

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    mabloom77

    01/23/08 | Report as spam

    Are all products/services the same?

    This debate reminds me of the fable of the "four blind men and the elephant". If you don't know that story, it is easy to find via Google. The general idea is that every blind man percieves a different part of the elephant and believes it to be something totally different than the other 3 blind men. Its a fable about inductive versus deductive reasoning. This article trys to make an inductive argument that doesn't hold up to all the facts.

    Making a generalized statement about business process for all products and services as this article does, just does not fit with my experience. Consumer goods companies operate differently than legal consulting firms. Automobile sales are different beasts than wholesale coffee bean sales.

    Here is a "thought experiment" I think that will really illustrate the problem... considere MacDonalds (the retail hamburger chain).

    Who are the salesmen at MacDonalds? The high school student at the cash register? The franchise representative who gets new stores setup? The advertising department who makes commercials drawing customers towards MacDonalds?

    Whomever you pick in the sales chain at MacDonalds, most probably doesn't have a good understanding of what makes a good consumer food product, how it should be created, marketed, and sold. These are decisions made by strategic thinkers and tinkers at the home office.

    While there are many models of business that do need a Sales Driven approach, not all companies do. A wise CEO understand where the company strategies should be developed from, for his business model and makes sure those people have the goals and resources to develop them.

    Life and business would be so much easier if we could make generalized statements about business that everyone could follow to success. Unfortuantely, reality just isn't that way.

    My firm sells small business software. Our salespeople view the world as "how do i land the next sale". If the propspect on the last lost sale says "I didn't buy because feature X was missing" that's important information to capture and use for designing the next version/next product. However, many times what that one customer wanted is NOT what the market wants. Feature Y will get us more sales across the marketplace. Thankfully I work with a Sales Manager who understand the larger picture and feeds great intel to us. His sales plan is directly coordinated with the development plans. For us, synergy seems to work very well.

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    tgeorgia

    01/25/08 | Report as spam

    Are all products/services the same?

    Your use of the Four Blind Men and the Elephant is quite appropriate in this case, as does your use of determination of who drives the sales at Mickey D's!
    There is NO "one size fits all!"
    Yet, there is something to gain from the article itself.
    All divisions/departments must, in the end, have a direct or indirect mission to enhance the firm.
    An "enhanced" firm, no matter how you see it, SHOULD be able to increase sales, revenue, profit margin, overall profit, and possibly corporate image.
    As a semi-retired college prof. of business, I can honestly say that the article and the response about all products/services being the same have some validty.
    Moreso, they ought ot be used to disect each firm's goals and internal policies.

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    davidhensel

    01/23/08 | Report as spam

    Which question are you asking?

    It's a large, large, large leap between asking if sales should DRIVE the company
    and asking them to RUN it. The answer to the former is clearly yes; to the latter,
    history clearly tells us "good lord, no."

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    ptiseo

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Incurvatus In Se

    Ah, yes. The Salesperson's version of The God Complex.

    Note that this is basically a form of narcissism. Somewhat similar to doctors, admittedly because of Sales being close to a key pulse of a business, and having strong control over that pulse, gives it the impression of power and omniscience it doesn't actually have.

    There's only one person running/driving the company: the CEO.

    Everyone else is just an active or potential advisor to the CEO. Furthermore, a good CEO surrounds himself with as many advisors as possible: Sales to get spot-checks on the market, Marketing to get broader perspectives and emergent markets, Engineering to get feasibility and innovations, etc.

    A for-profit company is most succesful if it can do three things well: push revenues up as high as possible, push expenses down as low as possible, and mitigate risks. Mr. James says: "The only reason a for-profit business exists is to make profitable sales." The sentence is a narcissistic twist to support Sales. A profitable sale depends on more than just the sale. Better yet is: "The only reason a for-profit business exists is to make all sales profitable." Semantics? Maybe. The first way seems to imply the sale is key. The latter way implies profit is key. And, profit is not just revenue, as any economics student learns.

    Mr. James seems to unfortunately only acknowledge one of the triumvirate, and not suprinsingly, it's the one where Sales has a dominant role. One wonders if he has ever run a decent-sized company?

    The CEO is where the synthesis must happen to keep those three as optimized as possible. Not Sales.

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    Peter Dilger

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Revenue, Profitabilty and all that

    "Good sales people are not trained to achieve revenue they are trained to maximise the profitability of the accounts that they manage." - "Didn't realize it was mutually exclusive"

    Unfortunately in many circumstances they are - if we take an example whereby the "normal" revenue is ?250,000 with COS of ?150,000 (a gross margin of 40%) with attributable overheads of ?80,000 this would yield a NP of ?20,000

    Now lets focus on increasing revenue by 10% by offering a 5% discount revenues do get maximised and rise to ?261,250 COS become ?165,000 reducing the GM to 37% with no increase in attributable overheads the NP drops to ?16,250 a reduction in profitability of 19%

    The salesperson maximised revenue and managed to destroy the profitability

    I suppose the real debate is should an experienced sales person with the pre requisite management skills be considered to head up a company as opposed to say an experienced accountant with the pre requisite management skills. The latter having traditionally been the norm.

    There is an argument that the two candidates will have intrinsically different approaches to running the Company based on their values, experience, training etc.

    The state of the company and the state of the market will very often be the determining factors ? in a situation demanding growth or maximising business opportunities I would possibly go for one, in a situation requiring tight cost control, possibly caution or strong financial input I may go for the other ? which is which I leave to your imagination.

    Peter Dilger

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Compensation Plans

    A good reason to have a CRM system is to enable companies to provide profitability information (and resulting compensation) to the sales reps during the sales cycle. Given adequate infrastructure, it's perfectly possible for a sales rep to be compensated on profitability rather than revenue.

    The reason that most companies compensate on revenue is that it's easier. Also, marketing groups are constantly fighting against detailed profitability on individual sales because it would quickly reveal that they're adding to the cost of sales with little or no corresponding benefit.

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    davidhensel

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    A.B.C.

    Always. Be. Closing. Sub-prime. Mortgages.

    Hey! Looks like someone let Sales run the (lending) company!

    No need for those pesky management folks with their long-term perspective. We
    need results. LET'S MAKE A SALE!

    I hope we all enjoy the recession...

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Sales or Management

    You're confusing sales with sales incentives. Top management at the mortgage firms created incentives that drove that behavior. The sales reps were compensated not on writing solid loans but writing loans that had associated large fees. Your anger is misplaced.

    The problem with the current financial crisis doesn't have to do with internal corporate politics or who is "running" the company, but the dynamic between for-profit companies and the government. For-profit companies, if left largely unregulated, will act in ways that benefit them and not the rest of the country.

    This is normal and expected behavior. If you want to place blame with the crisis, place it where it belongs -- with a philosophy of government that doesn't believe in checks and balances.

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    davidhensel

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Agreed

    I wholeheartedly agree. But you don't think at all that the kind of (exclusively)
    sales-focused mentality you're espousing has anything at all to do with this kind
    of scenario? Really?

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    01/24/08 | Report as spam

    Of course.

    Those mortgage companies were extraordinarily successful at making money for themselves and their investors. The problem lay, of course, in that the business model was not sustainable, because they were writing loans that would eventually fail. That was short-sighted, but I don't see that as a necessary consequence of being directed by the need to make sales. Sales professionals are perfectly capable of seeing the value in a long term relationships and long term reputation and a long term business model. If they're compensated appropriately, they perform in ways that promote those goals.

    In any case, I never stated that the sales reps should be running the company -- only that the rest of the company should be a service organization to sales -- providing sales with what's needed to sell, today and in the future. That's a recipe for the highest level of business success. There is no other.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

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    davidhensel

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    Absolutely

    As a marketer, I wholeheartedly agree. And since Day One with this company,
    I've asserted that everything we do is in the ultimate service of sales. But
    throughout my career I've constantly come up against the short-sighted sales
    strategy. Heck, there are plenty of examples on this very web site - e.g.,

    "A consumer-goods firm?s analysis of one of its beverages? performance from
    1994 to 1999 revealed a 3% decline in baseline sales (shoppers were buying
    the beverage only when it was on sale) and a 14% jump in price sensitivity.
    The brand decline wasn?t obvious from short-term sales data?because
    discounts had spurred a 7% growth in sales during the period. The firm
    realized the damage to the brand when it tried to raise prices in 1999.
    Consumers? resistance to paying full price cost the firm more than $5 million
    in revenues."

    "When General Mills acquired Lacoste, it lowered the price on the alligator-
    adorned tennis shirts and broadened distribution. Sales rose in the short run,
    but the brand lost its cachet when shirts moved from elite stores to clearance
    bins. Lacoste repurchased the brand. After it limited distribution, advertised
    the shirts through celebrities, and raised prices, sales jumped 200%."

    I've ended up in this sort of "I told you so" scenario many times with my
    comrades in sales (and yes, they always love to hear it). It's a tough challenge,
    but the game (i.e., most compensation scenarios) seems set up to leave
    business open to this kind of failure. Or at least it puts the blinders on.

    Some of us ARE looking out for the long-term interests of the company ? and
    of the sales team. You can put us down. Or we can work together. But just
    because it's not as immediately tangible doesn't make it any less "real" or
    important in terms of the ultimate impact on the bottom line. If we're (ALL)
    doing our jobs right, that is.

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