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Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

February 15th, 2008 @ 5:30 am

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Categories: General, Management, Sales Process, Sales Technology

Tags: CRM System, CRM, Nothing, Geoffrey James

Dangerous CRM -- Watch out!

There are five red flags that signal when a CRM system is more bother than it’s worth. If your CRM system has two or more of these flags, your sales team is in big trouble:

  • RED FLAG #1: Management must force people to use it. If management is putting pressure on reps–like threatening to withhold commissions–if they don’t use the system, then the system isn’t useful. Sales reps ALWAYS embrace technology that helps them sell (e.g. cell phones, email, IM, web conferencing) and always resist technology that wastes their time. If the reps don’t immediately love the system, that system is crap.
  • RED FLAG #2: It enforces a process that only works somewhere else. Most CRM systems come with out-of-the-box functionality based on the “best practices” of other companies. Unfortunately, what’s “best practice” in one company can be “worst practice” in another. Your company is unique, so you need a CRM system that models what works for your company, not your competitors. For example, any company that’s smaller than IBM, yet tries to sell exactly like IBM, is going to fail.
  • RED FLAG #3: The CRM data is frequently in error. All too often the data that’s in the CRM system came from old databases or was entered by folk who weren’t concerned with accuracy. Once reps figure out that the CRM system can’t provide reliable information, they’re not going to trust anything inside it. CRM must be developed with some form of data cleaning and data verification, otherwise you’ll eventually end up with a system that nobody can, or will use. Period.
  • RED FLAG #4: There’s an underground “real way” that things get done. I’ve seen cases where reps are 100% percent complaint with a CRM system–in the sense that they enter all the data that management is requesting–but have a completely different system for actually getting things done. (Usually, the sales manager’s spreadsheet is the “real” CRM system.) If this is the case, the “official” CRM system is simply flushing productivity down the toilet.
  • RED FLAG #5: The system isn’t available all the time. Nothing is more demoralizing than a system that’s not reliable. If a CRM system isn’t stable enough to be available 24/7, or can’t be accessed when reps are on the road, then the reps (who are nothing if not practical) will constant looking for (and inevitably find) other ways to get the job done and find out what they need to know.

Any of this sound familiar?

Feel free to share your CRM experience. (Vendor sock-puppets post elsewhere, please!)

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    roy.atkinson@...

    02/16/08 | Report as spam

    "Five Signs" - Not Just CRM

    These five, well articulated warning signs are equally true for any other enterprise system. If you have to shoehorn your organization into it, force people to use it, discover inaccuracies, and have availability issues with ERP, email, group calendar, time tracking, billing, inventory, or just about any system you can think of, you've got trouble. If you have to depend on channels outside the system to get the real work done, you've got trouble.

    Thanks for putting together a good argument for being more careful about getting requirements right for your organization.

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    cferron@...

    02/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    I'd add a sixth sign: If your personnel aren't updating a "real-time" system in real time, it might be a sign of trouble. Our technicians have found that it's easier to update their calls at lunch and at the end of the day rather than waiting for a poky connection or an overloaded server at the conclusion of each call.

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    dave.stein@...

    02/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    We've found that there is one overwhelming factor that determines whether a CRM system will fail, even before it's installed and implemented: Will the system help salespeople win business?

    If the answer is either no, or I'm not sure, you can bet it will be seen as a burden by the salespeople. They'll tell you inputting data just so management can get their reports is taking away from their selling time.

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    markburnley

    02/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    What is the best way to ensure that your CRM system does work and is accepted?
    To answer my own question:
    #1 Get the salesteam involved in the formatting of the screens they will use to input/output data.
    #2 Make synchronisation smooth.
    #3 And as covered above, make sure the database data is correct from day-one.
    And a load more I guess...............

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    gadders

    02/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    One thing I've found that kills CRM systems, is the salesperson's reluctance to share contacts. Quite a few of them believe their contacts are their own personal property, and view the people they know as their main source of value.

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    c3mclaren@...

    02/18/08 | Report as spam

    Salesforce is the worst

    I have to say Salesforce is probably the biggest waste of time ever invented. You spend half your day doing real work, then half your day logging that work online so that the power that be can monitor your "progress". Gotta love the bureaucracy..

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    dstrahm

    02/22/08 | Report as spam

    Don't blame the tool, blame the tool provider - your company

    Salesforce, properly configured for your organization's unique sales process and deployed to match they way the sales force works, is extremely powerful and useful in oganizing and presenting the information I need to manage and close complex, long lead sales cycles. Give a gatling gun to a Roman soldier and he's going to complain that it is too heavy to throw and the tip isn't sharp enough. Teach him how to use it properly, and set it up so he can be effective, and you have multiplied his effectiveness and success many times over.

    The typical sales proces where each rep is his own island, delivering deals when "they are ready to sign", is just plain sloppy business. The rep should be the quarterback, and what pro quarterback is successful without sharing the playbook and tightly coordinating the sales efforts amongst the team?

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    02/24/08 | Report as spam

    Insulting to Salespeople

    Your comments are highly insulting to sales professionals, although I'm sure you don't realize it. Here's why:

    Give a gatling gun to a Roman soldier and he's going to complain that it is too heavy to throw and the tip isn't sharp enough. Teach him how to use it properly, and set it up so he can be effective, and you have multiplied his effectiveness and success many times over.

    While this is an imaginative metaphor, it implies that sales professionals are primitive and unable to understand the point of technology. Sales pros are almost all early adopters of technology, providing it really helps them sell. They're not stupid and can immediately grasp very complex applications -- but they won't bother when it's clear that it's not worth their time and effort.

    The typical sales process where each rep is his own island, delivering deals when "they are ready to sign", is just plain sloppy business.

    The behaviors you characterized as "sloppy business" have nothing to do with CRM per se. You can have a sloppy sales process implemented in CRM or a solid sales process that uses a sheet of paper to track the sale. The issue is whether there is diminishing returns to the sales person in tracking large amounts of detail

    The rep should be the quarterback, and what pro quarterback is successful without sharing the playbook and tightly coordinating the sales efforts amongst the team?

    I suspect that you're trying to compliment the sales pro by making him (or her, weirdly) into the quarterback. That sounds impressive, but it's a bad metaphor. A much better metaphor would be for a sport that emphasizes a single individual with a supporting background team, like a prize-fighter or race-car driver. Selling is an individual activity that requires the support of a team, not a team activity that requires the support of the sales pro.

    By the way, I suspected from the language in your post that you were a vendor type. So I googled your handle. Am I correct in believing that this is you:

    http://news.thomasnet.com/companystory/807765

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    migmigmig

    02/25/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    2nd request to connect...I suspect you get a lot of requests but Geoffrey, I really would like to chat for a few minutes---please let me know if and when possible...I would even be willing to travel to New Hampshire...Mike Green, Chairman, Landslide Technologies, Inc...mig@landslide.com

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    darwin.com

    11/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Five Signs Your CRM System is Failing.

    very good post, hit the nail on the head!

    Darwin CRM

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