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Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says UCLA Anderson's Dominique Hanssens

October 15th, 2008 @ 10:26 am

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Categories: Academics, Financing, Research

Tags: Recession, Dann, Marketing Research, Marketing, Jeremy Dann

Dominique Hanssens, Bud Knapp Professor of Marketing and the Marketing Area Chair at UCLA’s Anderson School of ManagementEven when the economy looks bad your marketing doesn’t have to suffer, says Dominique Hanssens, Bud Knapp Professor of Marketing and the Marketing Area Chair at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management. In fact, Hanssens, who recently served two years as the executive director of the Marketing Science Institute in Cambridge, Mass., and whose courses Andersen include Marketing Strategy & Planning and Research in Marketing Management, thinks a downturn is one of the best times for marketing to shine.

I sat down with him recently to discuss the pressures marketing executives are under during scary economic conditions. Here’s what he said.

Dann: What’s different about marketing during a recessionary period?

Hanssens: The difference is the challenge on budgets, because many companies feel that marketing should be budgeted as a percentage of revenue, and therefore, if revenue does not look good because of the recession, marketing budgets are often the first to be cut. There’s a lack of understanding of the strategic value of good marketing, so if you work in the marketing function during a recession you get challenged more on your spending levels than other parts of the organization.

Dann: What can a manager do to fight this off internally and get the resources he or she needs?

Hanssens: The answer is to demonstrate the return on the marketing spending so that you don’t become a cost center where your budget is a percent of revenue, but rather a profit center where the allocations are seen as providing positive returns—especially in light of some recent findings that the impact of marketing can be stronger during recessions than during the good years.

Dann: What are some companies that have “upped the ante” during down times?

Hanssens: You can easily point to examples of companies who have done successful innovations—new products and so forth despite the fact that these were launched during a recessionary period. The big growth period for Microsoft in the 1990s, when they went from being big to being a giant, coincided with the early ‘90s recessionary years. They had a lot of new value to offer with their products and were not afraid to get behind them with very aggressive marketing. A current example, if you accept the premise we are currently in a recession, would be Apple, which has been very aggressive with its iPhones and is doing spectacularly well, despite some negative news about the overall economy.

Dann: Have you seen any impact of high food and energy prices and how they are changing consumer behavior?

Hanssens: It’s a good question, but it’s still really early to track the impact. You read about it a lot and I know a lot of companies who are extensively engaged in efforts to analyze the effects of price changes before they implement them. They’ve learned from past mistakes. Even if the cost pressures are there, the forces of competition tend to hold prices at a reasonable level. The companies watch each other; if they are forced to raise prices, they hope at least their relative prices won’t change because consumers often react more to relative price than absolute price changes.

Dann: What final advice would you give to marketers who are finding it tough to manage in the current economic environment?

Hanssens: It’s a wonderful opportunity to think through the mission of the business again and if business really is down, not just to chalk it all up to the recession. But think through the goals of the organization and look at all parts of the business, some of which are hurt more than others and ask yourself, “why?” You can get an indication of the true value being created by that part of the organization. It’s a good moment to sit down and reflect. In good times, that doesn’t happen because so much money is coming in and companies don’t challenge themselves.

You don’t have to wait for the good economic times to be successful; you can be very proactive.

Jeremy Dann is a lecturer in innovation and marketing at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management.

 
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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    10/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    Investing more in the marketing group during a downturn is insane, unless that marketing group is spending 100 percent of its time generating qualified sales leads and reducing sales costs.



    A better way to use the meltdown strategically is to use it as an excuse to axe every marketing program (and person) that can't be directly measured by either an increase in sales or decrease in cost of sales.



    We've been discussing this issue extensively on the Sales Machine blog post "A Branding Strategy Horror Story". Here's the URL:



    http://blogs.bnet.com/salesmachine/?p=549

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    AOCenteno

    10/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hansse

    Marketing departments need to clearly show the ROI of their efforts - a downturn is a great time to reassess where are you spending our money, why, and is it a priority. All departments should be held accountable.

    Antonio Centeno
    President, A Tailored Suit
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    Leightonj

    10/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    I think that "marketing-oriented" companies will hold the line and keep marketing spend rather than radically cut it. As Dominique Hanssens notes Microsoft invested while everyone cut and grew market share - I happened to be an employee at the time and there was budget for great ideas that grew revenue - flaky ideas were cut.

    Its just harder work and the mix of where you put effort and money is more critical - so I agree a litle with Geoffrey James on that point. At the end of the day you need to generate qualified leads, build the value in your offer and get the pricing right through innovative packaging and offers.

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    khaledo

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    I agree on both action by cutting marketing budget or keeping the same sprnding but any action will depend on the product the company selling and the competion they face, The real important role in our marketing activities is personal selling tool that will bear most of the heat during recesssionary, and for sales team will be realy challenges.

    Dr. Khaled Abdel Rahman
    Marketing instructor

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    kpaditya

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    If a company stands the market meltdown and slowly and suddenly increases the ROI on the market spending, the company would sustain any market condition.

    Take for example TATA Motors, Ford etc who stood strong at the time of world war II. They are the strongest now.

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    jtlivmd

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    In a regional or sub-regional market, even if your product or service is not quite first class (yet), increased marketing, especially when well executed, can knock out a huge chunk of competition. So, save for the inevitbale downturns, have a marketing plan of attack, and be ready to strike while the iron is HOT!

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    J Raghu

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    I tend to agree with Hanssens because trade cycles and economic downturns are part of business life and a company must have an approach to manage these cycles. cutting marketing budget is mor e a knee-jrk reaction and carefully assessing the strengths of the company and marketing to that strength, even if recession is high, will yiled positive results.

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    Shahid Haq

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    The increase in the marketing activity does not necessarily mean promotion. Also it does not mean that it is universally applicable. It is about taking the some aspects downturn as an opportunity. These are opportunities because you can do things you wanted to do but could not as you were too busy in the flow of growth. These opportunities might arise as others are exiting the market, They might arise because you could hire better people for less. The tough time would of necessity make you review your programs more critically and objectively. So yes Meltdown can be used as an opportunity for the future

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    LoriFeeney

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    Continuing marketing and advertising efforts during difficult economic times also keeps your company at the top of consumers' minds when the economy DOES come back. I fear Mr. James may be overgeneralizing from one example of an unsuccessful branding campaign to make pronouncements about ALL marketing efforts, which would be a mistake.

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    marybaum@...

    10/31/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hansse

    I'm sorry Geoffrey James has so many emotional scars
    from working with ineffective marketing people that
    his very definition of marketing includes the
    perception that it doesn't work: Doesn't generate
    leads. Doesn't help his target audience find out about
    the company, its offerings and benefits - so his folks
    can get in the door more easily when they call on
    prospects.

    Geoffrey, as you describe them on your blog,
    marketing people don't even seem to understand the
    products and services you and your folks sell - and
    don't seem interested in learning.

    Well, my view is that those people did bad things to
    hurt you and your sales folks and should have been
    fired - replaced with people who actually wanted to
    grow the sales of the company.

    I believe the whole purpose of marketing is to prepare
    an audience to receive a sales force - or better yet, to
    get that audience to pursue the sales force - with a
    mix of (mostly direct) marketing vehicles that show
    everyone involved in the transaction how marvelous
    their lives will be, and how easy their jobs will be, once
    they've bought your product and are in regular contact
    with your people - who are, after all, the most
    responsive, sympathetic, talented folks they could
    possibly choose to work with - and are just plain fun,
    too.

    And if your marketing folks aren't doing that, it seems
    to me that you get new marketing folks - not pillory
    the entire profession.

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    aghreni

    12/14/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    I agree with the author that Marketing still holds an opportunity during recession. But Most companies try to strip marketing budgets and put them into sales. This is not right, as it is more tactical and may not yield results on the investments made for conversion.

    The Marketing budget during the period of recession should be carefully thought and rightly allocated for the marketing media is measurable and that has the highest Return on conversions and also more economical to use.

    Direct Marketing through email and mobile, lead generation on the internet and along with web 2.0, provides lot of opportunities for marketers. They are also very cost competitive compared to traditional mass media marketing.

    Best Regards
    Manjunatha KG
    Aghreni Technologies
    http://www.aghreni.com/email_mobile_messaging_platform.html

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    Guy Tomlinson

    04/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Meltdown an Opportunity for Marketing, Says Andersen's Dominique Hanssens

    I agree and want to add that recessions are when businesses face more threats and opportunities than ever. Thus there is a need to be even more vigilant to spot these threats and opportunities. Being the corporate antennae or early warning system of the business is a role that fits pefectly with the marketing and research department. Marketers can truly shine by alerting business attention and being proactive in recommending initiatives to grasp the opportunities and deal with the threats.

    Best wishes
    Guy Tomlinson
    The Marketing Directors, Marlow, UK
    Watch our recession busting video think-piece at:
    http://www.themarketingdirectors/marketing_inspiration.htm

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