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Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

August 12th, 2009 @ 5:00 am

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Categories: Academics, innovation

Tags: Job, Patient, Business Model, Health Care, Harvard, Clayton Christensen, Vertical Industries, Healthcare, Benefits, E-health

Clayton Christensen’s views on innovation are oft-cited in discussing the ills and opportunities in many industries. His book The Innovator’s Prescription: A Disruptive Solution for Health Care (co-authored with Dr. Jerome Grossman and Dr. Jason Hwang) presents a distinct view on how health care in the United States can be radically transformed.  As battle lines on health-care reform harden in Congress, and as town hall meetings nationwide degenerate into melees, it seemed an opportune time to get the Harvard professor’s views on the current state of the health-policy debate.  (You can also check out our earlier discussion with Professor Christensen about his seminal health care book.)

Clayton ChristensenBNET: Some couch health-care reform as a debate between quality and excellence vs. accessibility and cost. Do you see that distinction, or do you frame the issue in another way?

Christensen: I think that’s a false dichotomy. The cost in the system is really driven by “business model malpractice” — using business models that weren’t designed well to provide the care that needs to be given. The cost is in the overhead in hospitals and doctors’ practices; it’s not really driven by how much we compensate physicians. The quality of care is driven by the extent to which processes for delivering care are tightly coupled, so that details don’t fall through the cracks. By tightly coupling care so that we diagnose diseases precisely, we will make sure we don’t have patients go from here to there, from this doctor to that doctor, and this department to that department. Then, by having appropriate business models tightly focused on the individual diseases, we reduce overhead costs.

BNET: From what you’ve heard of recent proposals, do you see anything that will address this problem systemically, or is it a facility-by-facility issue?

Christensen: There isn’t anything being discussed in Washington that begins to address this problem. Some of the leading providers such as Kaiser Permanente are very aggressively moving in this direction already. They started the move before they read our recent research on health care, but that work has given them a logic and an impetus for moving even faster. The Cleveland Clinic, the Mayo Clinic, and Kaiser Permanente have all taken major steps to set up focused-solution shops for major categories of disease.

BNET: Has any of the research you’ve done dealt with patient privacy issues and how improving the information flow throughout the system can provide better outcomes and smarter business models?

Christensen: We’ve thought a lot about this. it’s such a deep issue that we only dealt with it a bit in The Innovator’s Prescription. But subsequently, we’ve worked with a number of [physicians and other experts] to develop a better sense of what electronic medical records can do, what they need to do, and how they can be built in a way that respects people’s confidentiality. Basically, there are jobs that have to be accomplished by patients or doctors that cause them to pull these types of records into their lives or practices. When we buy products or services, we are “hiring” them to get these jobs done for us. One of the key findings from our research on innovation is that understanding the customer has you focusing on the wrong unit of analysis. But if you develop products that enable people to get particular jobs done, it is much easier because that job is the causal mechanism for the purchase. If you develop a product or service for a job that a customer is not trying to accomplish currently, it rarely succeeds. But if you help them do something they are currently trying to do, we call this a killer app.

A current concept in Washington is that they will pay doctors $50,000 to implement electronic medical records in their offices. What’s going to happen under that scenario is the electronic medical records will just sit in doctors’ offices unused. The data will just be on disk drives instead of in filing cabinets. No one has yet developed applications that allow doctors to use these electronic records to get important jobs done in their practices. There are no applications where an electronic record is currently superior to a paper record from the perspective of the doctor, given the way their work is structured. It’s not a technical obstacle or an economic obstacle, it’s a marketing obstacle.

We’ll continue our discussion with Professor Christensen next week and hear his views on Massachusetts’ universal insurance coverage policy and if it can serve as a model for national plans. You can read that installment by clicking here.

Jeremy Dann is a lecturer in innovation and marketing at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management.

 
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    merlinpendragon

    08/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    Thats because it does not cost 50 K to do this.
    unless the delivery system changes we are throwing more money and more money into a broken system
    But because the barriers to political success are being manned by the hate radio jockeys and newscasters who have not read any of the legislation obama has taken this to the people as insurance reform versus health reform. Gingrich did the same thing and nothing happened. Either we fix the nonsystem and the insurance mess NOW or we forfiet to megameds running the country. Once the megameds begin to wabble then the fed bails em out and we have the GM of healthcare..worse than socialized medicine because now it becomes all about money
    So whats your life worth?

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    JohnnyJack

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    Healthcare: it's the cost, not who pays it

    Prof. Christensen is very correct. The key difference between European health care and US health care isn't how it is paid for but its total cost. The total cost of health care in Europe is much lower than in the US yet people live much longer despite horrible health habits. The procedures are better: regular checkups, the government negotiates drug prices with pharmaceutical firms, "pain and suffering" are excluded from lawsuits, etc. I left the US 20 years ago. Has anything important improved?

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    steveo@...

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    Process-driven cost.

    His point about process-driven cost is very perceptive.

    In a free market, where enterprises are driven by competition, those things are address ruthlessly.

    Government oversight and control over the health care industry will be murderous to future process improvements. It's hard to understand why people think government control will result in better outcomes in areas like this.

    Which enterprise do you think implements process improvements faster, FedEx or the US Postal Service. Who do expect to take advantage of new technologies quicker, a public school, or a private school? The FAA, or... you get the idea.

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    Chalo

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    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    The problem is the greed in the system as many in the industry would appreciate keeping the status quo. In the current system the hospitals, doctors and patients are loosing big time. Currently there are six lobbyists in washington for every lawmaker. The health insurance industry makes Wall Street look like childs play. Too many people are drinking the Kool Aid and nothing much will be done until the current system crashes just like Wall Street. I remember working at Riverside Methodist Hospital back in the 80s and we would attempt to hide the fact someone had AIDS (before people even called it that) but as soon as their insurance provider guessed the patient had AIDS, they were dropped from their policy ASAP. Many friends and co-workers died a miserable lonely death back then. Not much has changed with this broken system. To answer merlinpendragon, one's life is worth too much as it is about making money and not saving lives. Even worse, there is more money to be made if people stay sick so, keep them fat and lazy and offer them pills.

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    steveo@...

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    Legal costs

    JohnnyJack makes a good point about how "pain and suffering" are excluded from lawsuits.

    The US systems is designed to generate high legal expenses. Trial lawyers make billions of dollars, and in return they put millions of dollars in the pockets of Democrats.

    Democrats sort of give their game away. If the reforms were really about cost reduction they would be leading with tort reform. Instead, it's not even part of the conversation and Democrats have a long history of blocking Republican effors in this area.

    But it is a good reminder how government operates, and should give us some indication of how decisions will be made should the governmnet take over this sector of the economy.

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    gdrobinson

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    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    Spot on! Thank you Dr. Christensen for adding some level of common sense and logic to the health care debate. From my perspective it is not a democrat or republican issue - it is a people issue that needs to be addressed by an appropriate business strategy and model. Please, let's stop the insanity.

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    Mal@...

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    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    There are many improvements necessary to move Universal Healthcare to affordability. No single method is a complete solution. However, one element is absolutely necessary for competence and cost containment. There must be comprehensive, continuously improving, published, patient condition focused, procedural standards for treatment of medical conditions. A lack of such standards is a blank check to an industry that has demonstrated remarkable ability to absorb funds.

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    gdarbo6844@...

    08/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    Very good article and very good comments by all. I am not smart enough to understand all the nuances of the health care debate and possible solutions but in all I have heard, I have not heard anything about personal responsibility for keeping ourselves healthy. If I exercise daily and eat the right foods, will I pay the same costs (or worse yet, will I pay for the health insurance) of those who do not watch their diet, smole, drink alcohol excessively, etc.?? To me, health care costs so much because we want to enjoy all kinds of food, drink, smoke, do risky things (drive without a seatbelt) and still be healthy. Not one politician brings that point out because...God forbid...we might all have to do a little sacrifice.

    As someone who has been on government health care for over 30 years (21 years active duty military and now as a retired disabled Veteran) I can say with first-hand knowledge that it is a mixed bag. I have seen waste; I have seen great care; I have seen where things could be a lot more efficient. When I go to a VA Medical Center and see the over 60 Vet who served 4 years (and I thnk him/her for their service) and then spent the rest of their life smoking and drinking heavily and now they come to the VA demanding the govertnment take care of them because they sserved their country, I have to cringe and shake my head. If we, as a country, would wake up to the fact that the body, like a machine, needs to be maintained and taken care of, then we can focus our health care on those, despite all their best efforts to stay healthy, who by curcumstance were either born with an ailment or contract an ailment or have an accident, need to have the best health care.

    It is a tough line but a lot of our health issues are our own fault; the power to change is within our own power and not in Washington.

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    123heath

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    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    I would like to see us clarify the questions before we attempt to answer them. I believe that we do not have a health care problem in this country because we do not have a health care system...we have a medical care system. "Health" is typically associated with "wellness" and "prevention" and these approaches have been fought heavily by "megamed" (see merlinpendragon above) or Big Pharma. I believe the plan being presented is a form of taxation and has very little to do with health. How would the debate develop if we referred to it as a medical care system?

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    123heath

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    RE: Harvard's Clay Christensen: Healthcare Debate Needs Sharper Focus

    I agree with the points made by gdarbo6844 above. There are many behind the current plan who support "pro-choice" for what comes out of a woman's body, but I see very little in this plan that let's me decide (be pro-choice) how my medical needs will be paid for. Nor does it support me in my right to pick holistic, natural treatments or invasive, alternative modalities before resorting to dangerous controlled substances (prescription drugs) that are designed to treat symptoms instead of root causes or submit to painful expensive procedures. I believe we are being manipulated by rhetoric and would like to see the words changed to unmask the money trail and hidden agendas. I have also heard the media touting that the US has the best healthcare in the world, but there are plenty of articles out there placing us much lower and stating that the 4th leading cause of death is doctor/hospital/pharmacy errors.

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