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Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

June 2nd, 2009 @ 9:02 am

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Tags: Car, Wall Street Journal, Michael Moore, General Motors Corp., Stefan Deeran

All the pundits are discussing GM’s downfall today.  Some blame the current recession for killing the car business while others look to recent tactical blunders (selling off its financing arm GMAC, getting involved with Fiat, halting its EV1 electric car, crazy incentives) to explain how one of America’s most iconic corporations could end up effectively owned by Uncle Sam.

But for two commentators on opposite sides of the political spectrum, GM’s troubles started with how it dealt with its unions decades ago.

First, Paul Ingrassia’s Wall Street Journal op-ed:

The company signed generous labor deals during the 1970s, including the right to retire after 30 years with full pension and benefits, partly because it believed the contracts would cripple its smaller competitors, Ford and Chrysler. Then along came Honda, Nissan and Toyota, which didn’t have to deal with labor contracts at all. That was the beginning of the agonizing decline.

And now the alternative view from professional provocateur Michael Moore, who made his name critiquing GM in the film Roger & Me:

Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars?

So who is right?  Did those high paying union jobs cripple GM’s competitiveness?  Or were American unions needed to preserve the middle class consumer base that could afford GM cars?  Share your thoughts below.

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Stefan Deeran consults environmental advocacy groups and businesses on their sustainability strategies and communications plans. He also publishes the online newsmagazine the Exception.
 
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    AKooluris

    06/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Michael Moore is off his rocker. His argument might hold weight if GM employed every single middle class worker in America, but they didn't.

    I remember visiting a GM plant when I was in college, and meeting seasoned worker who was sweeping the floors. He told me how it was the best job ever, his length of service meant he could have the least productive (easiest) job, get paid the most, and tap into his pension shortly after. I couldn't understand how this system could sustain itself in the competitve marketplace...and 8 years later...we're seeing it absolutely cannot.

    The lesson to be learned in this is that workers in America need to start taking accountability for protecting their long term viability as well - not simply say - I'm Union, I'm protected. If "vitcory" for the union means the entire organization fails....don't they both ultimately "fail"?

    Recession or not...GM was destined to fail. The bad economy just sped up the process. Both sides are to blame. Management was unable to develop innovative products that people wanted and the unions built a debt structure that could never be sustained.

    This company should fail and lessons should be learned as new car companies and/or improved existing ones emerge. Regardless of what you hear out of washington, that is what make capitalism great..and America strong and innovative in the long run.

    Again, Michael Moore's argument of financial stability to afford their products only holds true for a micro case in Flint Michigan, not America at large and it wasn't the lack of sales in Flint that led to this problem.

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    JT HR Guy

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day and as much as it pains me to admit even this little bit, Michael Moore is (argh) a little bit correct in his assessment.

    But is is more (no pun intended) than just greed on both sides; it is arrogance. Five million a year in salary? That's crazy. There is a line about an executive who said not to buy expensive carpet for your office because eventually you will come to believe you are worth it.

    An honest days wages for an honest days work has been lost on union and management!

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    sbrennaman354

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Michael Moore is right about the middle class deteriorating but that is not GM's fault, it is business evlotion and the feeling of entitlement we as the middleclass have come beleive. But the demise of GM (And Chrysler and do not fool yourself Ford is going to happen as well) was more a result of poor decisions made by auto executive managment as well as the ever driving need to ge the best deal for auto workers by the UAW. Talk about killing the goose laying golden eggs!!! The UAW owning almost 30% of GM and over 55% of Chrysler only perpetuates the problem of entitlement in the auto undustry.

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    Bookguy#1

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    You've got to be kidding me! Michael Moore has never been right about anything. Since when do screaming unwashed liberals know anything about business. Next you'll be trying to convince us that Al Gore invented the internet or isn't making huge profits from carbon credits from the scare BS from "Inconvenient Truth" Give you head a shake and clear the cobwebs.

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    Craig Wood 1

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Michael Moore is an idiot. GM's biggest problem were cars that were behind in quality of build, ride and reliability. A GM car could never match a Japanese or German car head to head.
    The American public got tired of spending there hard earned money on crummy U.S. vehicles.
    Sad thing is now GM is starting to build some top notch vehicles.
    Their full size pickups,Malibu and a new SUV are getting very good reviews. This move may be too little, too late

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    DataDude1

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    It is not about who is right or wrong. Moore and the WSJ are both right and wrong. A problem such as GM's comes from believing the sail will always be a smooth trip. Certainly the UAW and GM can be rightfully accused of short-sightedness. Both strayed from the fundamental purpose of a business, which is to create and keep a customer, you will falter.

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    AKooluris

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    JT who are you to decide how much compensation an exmployee should get? We live in a society where ballplayers make $35mm a year for hitting a baseball, why shouldnt a CEO who grows the wealth of investors by billions get paid accordingly...that is what makes america great....you're just bitter because it's not you...

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    ThomasJ22

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    MAJTim

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Isn't Michael Moore the same guy who criticizes companies such as KBR and Halliburton, but ALSO owns stock in them????? He's nothing but a hypocrite!!!

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    Tim Noyce

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    @MAJTim - actually I think owning stock in a company you criticise gives your criticism more weight.

    Though I find that Mr Moore often points up foolishness and injustice I doubt if losing sales in Flint was the reason for GM failing. GM was just plain simple uncompetitive - their products were more expensive than higher quality alternatives.

    Speaking as a european I should point out that American cars do not sell here because they are too large and gas-guzzling: our roads are smaller, our parking is scarcer and our gasoline is more expensive than yours... German cars of course seem to sell just fine in the US. Not gloating (German car companies also get some veiled state support) but pointing out that not pointing appropriate products at a market will deny you sales. The Koreans and Japanese make compact, low-cost, eco-friendly cars that sell very well in Europe, even in Germany...

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    ffordf

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    RE: Who's Right on GM: Michael Moore or the WSJ?

    Okay. The post is great(.

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