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Gen X is Unhappy at Work

May 15th, 2008 @ 10:55 am

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Categories: Management, Managing Others

Tags: Generation X, Cohort, Hdere, Sean Silverthorne

Workers in their 30s and early 40s, otherwise known as Generation X, are growing unhappy with corporate life and planning a retreat, says Tammy Erickson, an expert on generational work force issues.

That’s bad news for their employers, who are looking to this cohort as next generation leaders.

Why are the Xers so cross? In her blog, Erickson provides 10 possible answers. Here are three of them:

 

X’ers are the most conservative cohort in today’s workforce – and you’re surrounded by “shake ‘em up” types on both sides. In your personal lives, X’ers are not particularly keen on rules, but you had to follow them in the workplace – and you resent it when others now don’t. It seems unfair to be rewriting corporate etiquette when you’ve had to toe the line for so long.

Many X’ers’ are guarding a closely held secret: you’re not all as comfortable with the technology that is changing the way things are done as everyone seems to think you are. While it’s perfectly acceptable for Boomers to feign ignorance and ask for help, it’s embarrassing for X’ers to do so.

Your own parenting pressures are at a peak. You’re deeply committed to spending more time with your kids than your parents did or were able to spend with you, but juggling is getting more and more difficult.

 

 

 

Does this strike a chord with you? Are you an Xer looking to move out of the corporate world? What would you do next if you could punch your own ticket?

And for Gen X employers, what are you seeing inside your own organizations? Are you leaking Xers? What should you be doing to keep them?

 

Updated May 20, 2008: Another headache for Xers? Managing those darn Gen Y kids. For help bridging the generational divide, see our feature package Managing Millennials: A BNET Survival Guide.

 

 

 

 
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    DeryRamos

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    certainly...

    I does strike a chord in me. In particular, the one on how it IS embarassing not being as confortable with techonology as I feel I should. While I am not looking to leave the corporate world, I do wish to have some sort of balance when I am choose to have a family. I also do not like the idea of changing corporate etiquette as the article says, to accommodate younger workers. Work is work, play is play - don't star mixing them.

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    majorg@...

    05/18/08 | Report as spam

    What GEN am I?

    They tell me that by the date of my birth, I'm a boomer (but on the late end). This list of 30-40 year old X'ers would make me an X'er (I'm still in my 40's). What ticks me off is that the folks on both ends think they can/should set the standard for how things are in the workplace, and neither has a clue to their own weaknesses. I have Boomers that *think* because they know a few buzzwords on current tech, they have enough to know architecture, implementation and execution, when they don't, and don't want to spend the time to learn about what they task me to do. They just continue to promise miracles without any understanding of what's going on. Then there's the media fed baloney about how we need to change the way we work to get the GEN-Y kids to come to work. Do things *their* way, or we won't get them to work for us. What happened to "Whoever pays the piper gets to pick the tune?" My Dad always told me that the guy/gal paying your salary gets to tell you what to do and how they want it done. What's changed there? Both set of bookends are trying to tell the folks in the middle how things should be and both have HUGE blind spots that they don't even realize impact the workplace.

    Me, I just keep looking for that new job that will let me rise to that point where *I* get to set the standard and show that you can make a place run better when you understand the tools the organization uses, and you tell those you hire what you expect, and then actually expect them to perform to the standards you set, in the environment you set up. I know it's out there. Maybe "just over the rainbow"?

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    jfinlaw@...

    05/27/08 | Report as spam

    Agreed- What generation am I?

    I agree with the post, What Generation am I? I was born in 1963 but definitely feel more aligned with the Gen Xers...

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    It is what it is and you are what you want to be. Are you familiar
    with the mgmt principle called "The Pygmalion Effect"? Google it.
    Sounds like that's you to a "T"....Peace be with you, Ronald

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Actually, they consider you the "sandwich" generation..Kinda like not knowing if you're the dog or the tree:-) gotyactc@yahoo.com, RA

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X Reply

    You must understand that "Xers" believe work is "play" and visa versa...gotyactc@yahoo.com Peace be with you, Ronald

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    gutz19

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Me too

    I'd love to give up the rat race today, but how do you do it with a mortgage and all the other bills you are responsible for. I'm in my mid-to-late 40's and would be considered officially a Baby Boomer, but I am on the cusp of being a Gen Xer...

    Either way, too much stress at work and not enough time at home is wearing on me! I know what I'd do if I won the lottery, but I have no jiuce to go out on my own, so I'm stuck in the Cog.

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    wendy@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X is ready for a change

    I am in the same generation as you, we are now referred to as the J generation. In between the Boomers and Xs. I devoted more and more of my time to the Fortune company I worked for. I carried a lap top and worked at home through the wee hours more and more often as the business grew. I was trying to 'climb the ladder' and it completely exhausted me.

    I reached a breaking point where sacrificing my parenting became too much and I began to hate going to work every day for a company that let sheer greed guide their actions. One of those typical experiences where you work for three different companies over a series of years while never leaving your cubicle.

    I finally broke free and found a way to work for myself. While I'm still working more hours than I care to, I am able to stop and do what I need for my family without fearing it will 'look bad' to my boss and I might not get that next promotion. I am so much happier now.

    If you want some great examples of alternatives to the daily hamster wheel, read Jim Hightower's "Swim Against the Current - Even a Dead Fish can go with the Flow."

    Each day is a gift, that's why we call it the present. Find what fullfills you and offers enrichment to all areas of your life.

    Wendy Belancourt
    Trend Resumes
    www.trendresumes.com

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    You go girl!Glad you've figured it out before pushing up daisies:-)
    I'm thoroughly impressed!! Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Just remember: take "one-day-at-a-time"....Life if fragile, handle
    with prayer. Ronald

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    KTank

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    When there is no corporate loyalty and constant outsourcing of good jobs, why should GenXer's be loyal to corporations? Business needs to go back to taking care of the American worker and looking at what is good for AMERICA if they want American workers to be loyal to them.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    That's one side of the coin: the other deals with hope, trust, and growth. Life is given, "trust" is optional. You can only get to trust by looking into the mirror and giving your "all".

    Remember: You'll always get more than you give, when you give more than you get--Read Phil. 2:4....Just a thought 4U.

    Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    kbergh@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I don't know if the text examines generational differences here's a book that nails this subject: "The 7 Hidden Reasons Employees Leave: How to Recognize the Subtle Signs and Act Before It's Too Late."

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Great book minus one simple thing: 'You must first like the mirror
    to improve your looks:-). Peace be with you, Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    wi11iamm

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Dig in and add value... That's where satisfaction lies

    I'm bothered by DeryRamos' comment that the american corporation should be taking care of people.

    Corporations exist to maximize profit. That's what they do. If they have any role in keeping employees satisfied, it is only in the self interest of attracting and retaining talent.

    If you want satisfaction, add value and be rewarded for it.

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    judy mckee

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    That's exactly what I mean.

    I know companies are in the business of profit but they people to do it. Oh, Yeah! I guess you forgot that. Get a machine like most companies do instead of hiring real people to do the job. JM

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Only problems with machines is they can't "feel" ya...RA

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    larsman42

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    That's why X-folks do not want to stay

    Most people wants to add real value, while profit does not represent any real value. Unfortunately, our culture has been fooled to see companies as profit-machines, while the core point of running a business is to create value so that those who work there can make their living out of it, while also feeling happy with what they achieve in their work.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    You're right: money is an excellent servant, but a terrible master.
    Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    nickclark50

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    What Are You Talking About?

    I saw 'ktankersley' making that comment, not DeryRamos. I agree whole-heartedly with DeryRamos and add further that I work my tail off only to see the younger crowd work less and not be called on it. In a sense, I feel used and cheated in both personal and professional skill levels. This of course will go away once I have reached the top and will demand equal work for equal pay/respect. My official line is that if you don't work hard, then you don't get anything. Show me why before you ask for what you don't deserve happy.

    To think any company is responsible for taking care of their employees is not always the problem as few employees are really worth any care at all. For those who are worth it, every company should be paying attention and taking care of them as so they don't jump ship. We are what we sow.

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    asellers4@...

    05/23/08 | Report as spam

    Add Value

    Here here!!

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    That's the first sober statment I've read so far...go boy!! Ronald
    gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    sherrih

    06/13/08 | Report as spam

    adding value

    I agree completely. Somewhere Xer's got the misconception that corporations were lucky to have them. In this day & age, we are lucky to have a decent position. Although our parents didn't have the social struggles of today's world, they knew what had to be done & they did it without all of the complaining.

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    justjack

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Xers are the most "conservative"?! "Not as comfortable with the technology"?! Um, we invented the technology, moron! Oh well, 1 out of three, well that is nearly striking out.

    The truth: We're fed up with ********, there's no way to move laterally or up and the technology has opened new doors to going it alone, so why stay with disloyal, judgmental, bitter Boomers stuck in conservatism? We're looking for a way out.

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    World_reader

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    GEN X unhappy

    GEN X did not invent the technology.....the first cell phone came along in 1973......the pc market started to boom in the 1980's, and really hedge in the late 1990's. So how old are you?

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    The only place success comes before work lies in the dictionary.
    More importantly, as a process, doing is actually more important than just absorbing:-) Peace be with you, Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    itsinthere@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I left a great corporate gig in 2004 for a micro farm in Vermont - I still work
    (grantwriting consultant) and I make almost as much as I did in the corporate
    world but my quality of life for me and my kids is dramatically better. We
    keep farmer's hours up at 5, chores until 7 then breakfast, I go to work (at
    the PC), the kids go to school, and we get together again at 3 pm.

    I was scared witless for the first year, but after I realized the world wouldn't
    spin off its axis, I realized things would be OK.

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    judy mckee

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Congratulations! You have values

    That's it. I am proud of you. JMC

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    hke29935

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X''rs

    I have to say that I read this and chills just ran down my spine. I am 32 completing my MBA, am in middle management and raising three small children on my own and I hate where my life is. I hate that in management they reward 20-somethings with no experience, with a cushy title, just because they have a college education...but they are terrible managers. Then, because they can uproot their lives and move at a moment's notice, they are perceived as more valuable than someone like me who has, literally, worked their way up the chain and has years of experience. Also, I really struggle with the inconsistencies that we see in corporate structure, it's like do as I say not as I do. Also, I have such a problem with feeling like I can not do as much with my children as I would like, because in order to provide for them well, I have to be available 24/7. This article was right on target...I wonder if employers really care about this, or if they are willing to sell us out for the savings they obtain with the 20-something's because I definitely don't feel like most employers care about their Gen X turnover.

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    Acerebel

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    I sympathise, from a few years further on

    I know what you mean about the 20 something bad managers. I've just been made redundant, at 49, by a snip of a thing who doesn't really know what she's doing. She's got the whole story down pat on one big activity, but has zero skill in all the other parts of the job. The old 'one-trick pony' syndrome.

    As to management skill, she's positively Brownshirt about it all; no sense at all of wanting anyone else's input, feedback, viewpoints, ideas, innovation, creativity. She regards any reference to corporate policies or quallity standards as all of us being old 'fuddy-duddies'. I hope I'm around (in another business unit) to see the crash when someone investigates or audits her business unit for blown-out expenditure, extremely low ROI, and failure to comply with the law or the policies. The downfall of a know-it-all will be a thing of beauty.

    Gen X is unhappy at work? So are the much-maligned Baby Boomers who are being treated like has-beens well before our time is up.

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    smyates

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Here! Here!

    Excellent message! You are right on target with your post! I have worked so hard throughout the years thinking that all my hard work would pay off to a more deserved management position. Either I work for the wrong companies or I find one that doesn't recognize women as superiors. Frankly, I'm tired of trying to find the right company to spend my remaining years at. Why worry about GenXers leaving? Don't corporations care about any employee leaving? Good talent is good talent. But it sure seems like good talent doesn't get us ahead. Bad talent is the norm that I see.

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    Boomer Unafraid of Technology

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Interesting that Gen X is now facing the realities of the work place. How does it feel to have youngsters willing to do what you do for less money if they have the chance to learn something from you, then replace you? And they're so eager, aren't they?

    From here it looks like deja vu all over again...

    Enjoy!

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Here's the deal "over the hill, still under the hump". Supervisors
    learn from subordinates--that's they way it's been and will be--while subordinates teach supervisors. There's a total different skill set when one move from being the "peckee" to "******". Get it? Peace, Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    World_reader

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    wrong place

    You've got a lot of toughstuff going...you need to find a new place to be. There are other companies out there, you just have to take the leap. I know you know, but you only go around once, do it with a little glee

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    hke29935

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    me too

    i know what you mean about not having any juice...i think that is what is so frustrating about the state of our economy...we were working so hard BEFORE and not making it and now WHAT? it is frustrating to feel like hard work and dedication is no longer rewarded, everyone is replaceable, it is as if you always have this feeling that you can be replaced at any moment and that is stressful.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Work is still rewarded. You(we)must figure out how to add utility,
    worth, and control residuals generated by our efforts. It's not that difficult.....Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    asellers4@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X is Ready

    Getting a Boomer to retire (or head a new department, or travel, or put in more than 39.5 hours per week) is much like getting a Frenchman to go to church - they just won't.
    Nor will Boomers delegate, mentor, listen, or follow directions from any one who can't instantly fire them. Hopeless. Like herding cats.

    WWII's might be a bit dim, and Gen Y's might own neither an alarm clock or a necktie, but at least they're willing to listen, play along, and put in a little effort for a 37 year old manager.

    Boomers, to a large extent, seem to feel they don't have to do so, for some inexplicable reason. Apparently, their utter disregard for their customers, their coworkers, their firm, and our stockholders is entirely justified by their "advanced age," whilst far older and far younger workers outperform them regularly!!

    I don't mind turning on the Dale Carnegie for Boomers, but for heaven's sake I'm not their child. Not even close.
    If Boomers want to run the show, fine. Go to grad school and do something at the office besides grumble and grouch and overeat. Damn hippies!! And they called US "slackers!"

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    World_reader

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X'ers aren't hippies

    hey, hey there, Gen X'ers aren't hippies, those are the later boomers......

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    DisasterLady

    05/22/08 | Report as spam

    Reply to Gex X is Unhappy at Work

    I am a boomer and I not only have a full-time job, but I also am a part-time adjunct professor, teaching 5 classes each year...rated at #32 out of 300 instructors. We don't want to work???? I put myself through night school for my BA and my MBA while working full time...started when I was 24 and it took me 9 years. I've been working full-time for over 40 years and have no plans to retire....

    You call us slackards??? Maybe the employees you know are, but I am a vibrant woman, I exercise every day, work about 70 hours a week and have never had a day off for over 3 years since I spend my spare time teaching. HOW DARE YOU REFER TO ALL OF US BOOMERS AS SLACKARDS!!!! Maybe you work in an industry where the Boomers should be retired but we are NOT ALL ALIKE...JUST LIKE GENERATION X AND Y ARE NOT ALL ALIKE!!!!

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    asellers4@...

    05/23/08 | Report as spam

    Well, not ALL Boomers are awful

    Pretty certain I added some qualifiers, as far as Boomers go - like "most" and "many" which is very different from "all" or "every."
    And obviously, if you're able to manage a 70 hr week (and complete an MBA) then you're in the minority anyway, and clearly very unlike the lumpies with which I've had to deal.
    Going to the gym is admirable, also. I should mention I've dated women (before I married) who had a few years on me, and were therefore Boomers, and not "Gen X." They were fit, healthy, happy, intelligent, and quite successful in their careers.
    But I'm pretty sure they're the exception that proves the rule. Most of their employees (and mine) were rumpled, dumpy grouches. Getting them to type a document or make a phone call required one to almost genuflect. I wore kid gloves from day one and still offended them - even after buying lunches, listening to problems galore, having the patience of Job, smiling like an idiot, etc.
    I do need tasks completed by my people - and the ones 10 to 20 years older than me just aren't willing, as a (very general) rule, to follow or contribute or play along.
    Why? As several of them told me,"Because I'm old enough to be your mother."
    Perhaps, if they'd conceived in their late teens or early twenties. But I don't think advanced age excuses bad manners, mediocre to poor work, and a bad attitude (which I think is the reason they were under me, and not in management).
    Sure, lots of Boomers are nice people. A few are even hard working, appealing individuals. And sure, generalizations are often wrong.
    But you can't deny that there's a definite whiff of "Boomer Entitlement" from the shop floor on up to the corner office.
    I shudder to think of how omnipotent AARP will be in a few years, or how my taxes will skyrocket once Boomers decide that Gen X and Y should foot the bill for their health care (but not expect a salary anywhere close to what they had in similar circumstances).
    Obviously, college professors and MBA's are going to have better attitudes, better work ethics, and more open minds than the chubby grumpies which I've had to manage.
    So good on you, for being a cut above. Too bad there aren't more people like you, who won't coast along in mediocrity but will keep working, truly, on their knowledge base and skills.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    You are too right to be wrong...Thank you! One good thing about a smile and hope, it's contagious:-) Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Sounds pretty bitter, if you ask me. I'm of the "boomer group" and
    I don't share that analysis. In fact, most "Xers" I know just want to be engage, challenged and appreciated for their (often) awkward creativity and curiosity.....

    Peace, Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    monger@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    The concept that all folk of a certain age are alike - clones - is a logical nonsense.

    You think all Baby boomers liked their jobs?

    The concept of aggregating such as in the demographic Generation X or Y etc is simply not useful. If you want to get serious you have to drill down further

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    judy mckee

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    You got that right! NO loyalty but...

    There is so little loyalty to the workers and the attitude in the Call Centers is WIN WIN WIN....SELL SELL SELL. Next December we'll give you a bonus if you are still here. The job in the call center is full of stress and very little time to be a real person. People are docked pay if they get back from a 30 minute lunch 5 minutes late. Maybe the Xers are taking advantage, maybe they see no future. This got my Irish Up...I train these people and wonder why you need a college degree to answer customer service calls...Judy McKee

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Judy: I train too....yet, they're not all lost in the woods. Some
    actually can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. It's totally
    refreshing:-) Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    liddings

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Gen X'rs are not victims. These points are solid facts, however, there is much more to this. We have spent our 20's and 30's aiming to move up, make more for our lives, have a better quality of life only to be seriously held back by the corporate ladder and as a result have our family lives held back. Hence, why many of us do not marry until later. There is a resentment in a sense.

    It has taken us years to build what previous generations did by being at a loyal company for years (which does not exist anymore) and a now younger generation, which due to technology, does not need, in addition to being very disconnected outside of technology. We are simply realizing that this is not the only way to live; it has positives, yet the negatives are much greater.

    In a sense we are a spiritual (not religious) driven generation. We want more balanced connection with our work, with our children, our homes, and the quality of our lives. We see the possibilities between both worlds. People still need people and technology is fantastic for opening the door to do anything, anywhere, anytime. That is something we can be loyal to and take the time to discover our path with if it allows us freedom from a painstaking corporate ladder climb.

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    bbakerxyz

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Sorry, this is crap. I'm a Gen Xer and my perspective is pretty much the complete opposite of each of your 3 points.

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    Soapbox Marketing

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    They have no loyalty, either!

    I'm a 45 year old female former Marketing VP. After a nightmarish year(3 months launching a company for a ruthless maniac who worked me 70 hours a week, followed by five months at a 'stable' start-up where I also worked my butt off only to get laid off before Xmas so I didn't get my bonus)I decided not to pursue another VP job, but instead I put up my shingle and am now a marketing consultant. I love what I do and am damned good at it, but am sick of putting 110% for companies with no loyalty to ME. I had loyalty for all my employers, but when it comes down to it. Their loyalty is to the BOD and their own wallets.

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    chregan26

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Happy at work!

    None of these dire summations are true in my working days.

    Ms. Erickson mentions "And then there are those pesky Gen Y???s. Many X???ers are charged with ???managing??? Y???s which ??? let???s face it ??? is an impossible task...".

    Not true -- I have very driven Gen Yer's.

    Also, "X???ers??? corporate careers got off to a slow start"?

    Huh? Not true.

    "Guarding a closely held secret: you???re not all as comfortable with the technology".

    What? Not true. From iPods to ERP systems, I and my friends are happy pursuing technology.

    [We] are deeply turned off by parents who make their presence felt in the workplace.

    False again. I just had an impromptu lunch with a Y co-worker's mother who was visiting from Israel. Fascinating lunch. I also off to be of service for my reports' issue with family (moving, relative needs to visit x,y,z...).

    X???ers are, in fact, surrounded by a love fest ??? and not feeling the love.

    This is too bizarre a statement to really comment. But, hugs and handshakes are commonplace. Also, we feel the love, and fun, by each person in my group having their own company-supplied Nerf gun or rifle.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    "Praise-the-Lord"! Glad to see there's somebody out there who still
    has faith in the "human-spirit". Keep the light on! Ronald
    gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    bcooper@...

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    "Gen X'rs don't like to follow Rules", man is that ever an understatement. I oversee technology projects and the X'rs are the worse to negotiate with because they are like politicians as they say one thing (what they know you want to hear) then completely ignore doing what they say they'll do. As a cusp Boomer, I can't wait to retire to get away from those young bucks (management, supervision and technical leads) in Gen X'rvile.

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    gotyactc@...

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    Gen X

    Sometimes the "rules" fail to achieve the "results" needed. You know: if you're always afraid to go out on a limb, you may never get the fruit: that where the larger variety are...:-) Peace, Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    campuslogix

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    Its also internal

    I am in my 40s and I did go through the same frustration that we talk about here. While it is because of all those things that our friends have contributed here, I feel it is also because of the reality striking us now, the reality that we haven't achieved all those things that we thought we would when we started out in our mid 20s. Some of us are at a stage in our career where we have developed the skills, experience and acumen to handle bigger things....but there simply is no opportunity to do that. I was made an assoc.director and I knew for me to become the director it could easily take another 10 yrs when the other guy retires. I simply could'nt wait that long, so I quit and started my own gig and its been 2 yrs now and I am enjoying it. Just go out and do what u set out to do....don't loose those dreams!

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    radialheadfx

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    @ 33 I now have a child in second grade and a wife in school. Its all about being albe to leave the office before 5pm

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    swilson927

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    Load of &*&!

    The headline is right, but that's about it.

    Generation Y is working hard at becoming the most self-absorbed demographic ever. Between Blogs, facebook, myspace, and text messaging, there's very little time to do actual work. It's not that X'ers are uncomfortable with the "new" technology, it just that we aren't that interested. We have more important things to do. Tatoos and body piercing do not count as new technology.

    Gen X'ers grew up as latchkey kids, we raised ourselves and we do not think we are the better for it. Compared to our parents and the Boomers, we are far more involved with our families, with the difference being most pronounced with men. If we want to escape the corporate world, it's because we've seen our parents work themselves almost to death only to get downsized or outsourced or whatever. We do our jobs and work hard to pay the mortgage and put food on the table, but we have no illusions that either corporate america or the government will take care of us down the road. If we can get out, we do, so don't be suprised when we leave you behind.

    Returning to the Gen Y folks, I suspect that they will eventually grow up when they have kids and a mortgage. And by then some Gen X'er will have left the rat race to start a tattoo removal business. More power to 'em.

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    vanreamer

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    Hmmm, how limited...

    It's time for me to add my two cents, I figure after all the deductions, taxes and bills are paid that's all I could afford to contribute, sorry. Anyhow, I am not unlike most of you, but perplexed by the mania and ridiculous claims by some of the voices "screaming" to be heard. I am 41, been out of the corp world for about a year now, perform compliance as a consultant, working towards a Project Management gig, and can't really know where to staart. All the people I grew up with about an hour north of L.A. are in very similar situations. We have either parents, kids and perhaps grandparents that solely rely on us, their pensions no longer exist, it's becoming more common to see multiple families living together once again. I don't know any of my closest friends that have even thought about having a family of their own, it's not in the cards. A lot of this mess are the current state of affairs, and not just limited to this country but world wide. We grew up when tech was just in its infancy, so we wer old school trained by Boomers that had very strict/conservative values, and most had mom's at home all day. When the erosion began, divorce was becoming main stream, and now look at things today. The Y'ers and latter day newbies seem to take for granted all these characteristics. Let's face it, I have had to fire more young people for huge ethics issues more than anything. The ensuing generations have no idea what a real relationship is because they are all third party tech groupies that haven't a clue how to be civil, or even act responsibly towards others. And I do apologize to the considerate people that I just painted with such a broad stroke that don't participate in any of this. Good luck and do NOT forget to vote! IT IS your duty.

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    gotyactc@...

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    Gen X

    Power to the people...me too:-) Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    ravibn@...

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I completely agree with that there are people in there 30's and 40's who are unhappy at work. I think the author must have given a chance to the readers to look at this as a problem.

    Tools are required to determine the problem which uniquely provides to examine the symptons and arrive at a resoultion.

    There are plenty of principles and methodaliges available to inculcate the change in either of the generations.

    As a whole I would suggest the author needs to rethink about this and generate an article.

    Ravi Kumar

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    jefferson.burruss@...

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I would recommend a great book "X Saves the World" by Jeff Gordiner. The subtitle says it all: how gen x got the shaft but can still keep the world from sucking.

    I hope the "shaker-uppers" they're talking about aren't the people in my office who talk about The Hills.

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    angelisaweaver

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Project Mad Duck

    I believe we (GEN X) CAN AND WILL be the difference that makes a difference by "giving back" and taking a real serious look at new and innovative ways to NOT ONLY make a difference in the world BUT simultaneously generating an income flow that can sustain your financial need for life! Building networks (I like to think of it as a T.E.A.M.) Together Everybody Wins! BECAUSE Together We Can Change The World! The MPM Miracle is a great place to start! I am starting a project that is going to be documented for the next 36 months to prove social entrepreneurism BENEFITS EVERYONE!
    http://angelsofmississippi.bravehost.com

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    humris

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I'm 60 yo, I'm now still working at the financial institution. As a matter of fact I had worked at the three financial institutions up to this moment after I was retired from other two financial institution. Only negative attitude person of xiers in corporate who are unhappy, since they always think that what they got was they own capability, they don't tink that they are working have relationship with others. May be they are lonely people.
    Razmy Humris, Indonesia
    humris@tahoo.com

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    alan.beadnell@...

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Born in 1970, I resent the misfortunes which seem to have compromised X-ers at key moments: Recessions, Debt, Aids, Boomer Divorcees.
    Boomers continue to throw their money at Gen Y, who dazzle them with the elixir of youth. Their suspicion of X does not seem to transfer to Y.
    However, X-ers have acquired essential attributes from this experience, including: Flexibility, Articulation, Vision, Resilience. X-ers can mix it with both Boomers and Ys.
    Unlike Boomers and Ys, X-ers are not blinded by their own preoccupations, and can put ideas into practice.
    I think X-ers make perfect senior/management material right now, capable of better medium and long term decisions that will protect all 3 generations.
    Gen Ys know less about technology than they think. Social networking is not the internet.
    Get a Y idea, add Boomer money, and give it to an X - an X empowered to make disruptive change. Result = huge success.
    The reason this rarely happens, is because both Y and Boomers know that X have the skills to embarrass them. So X walks out and sets up their own business. Corporations are now feeling the pinch of this leadership naivety/vacuum.

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    angelisaweaver

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    The E-lusive American Dream

    I think it is pretty safe to say... The traditional 40/40 work and achieve the "American Dream" has become impossible! The misconception that generations before us (GEN X) had, I believe, is that you MUST trade your time for money! That is insane! You could NEVER achieve financial freedom that way, there simply IS NOT enough time in your life (even if YOU NEVER SLEPT) to generate enough money to BE, DO, AND HAVE everything you need and want! I believe we need more education in the financial arena! YOU MUST get your money working for YOU and create some leverage so that you are forming networks and earning a little bit off ALOT of people! I am in the process of implement a HUGE campaign on this very subject and introduce people to the concept of social entrepreneurism that WILL harness the power of technology AND everyday (necessity) spending to change lives, communities, and ultimately Make A Difference by creating WIN WIN situations, moving humanity forward by initiating positive change and "giving back" simultaneously! This project will be documented for 36 months, introducing the "NU way! For more info simply enter my name into any search engine and you will find me! Let me hear from you if you are interested in being included in this history making project that is pioneering new and innovative ways to make money!

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    gotyactc@...

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    It's not about "X". Leadership has evolved around what's "next". T&T(Tradition and Theory) has given way to finding creative ways to work: that works--period! If turnover, retention and loyalty are vital goals, then, fun, creativity and flexibility must become
    driving forces for America's corporations. (Ronald Arrington, MBA,
    CTC, Consultants, Trainers, Coaches: gotyactc@yahoo.com)

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    Quicslvr

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    That article defintely strikes a cord with me huge!! I'm 33 and trying to balance everything but work keeps me in an unbalance because they keep trying to do things cheaper and using less people so I have to take on more jobs to make things happen and keep my job. Trying to maintain Balance shouldn't be this stressful!

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    hbjsqj

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    let me tell you the story about a man named Jeb

    ...poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed!

    Hey Gen J and Gen X'rs...stop and smell the roses! Change is on you! Jobs are now commodities unless you work for yourself and accept the struggles that come with such an arrangement.

    Many boomers did the 24/7 thing just like you now claim to be mired in. What did it get many of them? Absolutely NOTHING! Laid off in their early 50's and only good for minimum wage jobs since they were overqualified for anything else...pension systems that were raped and pillaged...barely squeaking by until social security kicks in...what a horrible way to be! Do you honestly believe that corporate life will change? Do you honestly think there is a government solution possible? Go see Peter Pan!

    The bigger problem for your generation[s] is that what happened to those that worked hard and overboard and got tossed out like wet dishrag in their 50's will happen to you in your 40's and 30's.

    Just read an article that with China price increase pressure of 10-11% looming for this year, and the continued lead weight drop in what the dollar can actually buy anywhere in the world, that already companies that just set up in China are bailing out and going to India and places never found on a map before. Too bad...so sad...they will eventually run out of countries to flee too and they will get theirs!

    Find a calling where your skills can match the needs of other people and not corporate stupidity, even if you work for yourself, and your own quality of life will see a brighter horizon. Maybe a house smaller than your parents, maybe pull back on dining out, but glory be, you then control your own life pretty much!

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    amay@...

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    We used some of our savings to buy a plantation and hopefully in a few years plan to move full time from office/professional life in one country to plantation life in another. Selling our own high value products in shorts and sandals has got to be better than prostituting ourselves in suits and shoes.

    By the way, for the rest of you - did you every think of a change of scenery - i.e, leaving your current country and working elsewhere?

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    saurabh@...

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    Yes, its time for a change!

    Yes, the Gen X is definitely unhappy. The world is changing so fast, technology and business is changing at the most rapid pace ever in the history. Corporate are making more revenues and have better ROI. Business is going green, and corporate have new ways of maximizing their profit. The only loser is GenX who is shifting away from his family, life and values eating drive away burgers and junk food. Stress is on highest level, more people are visiting physicians and psychiatrists. The consumption of drugs is highest ever in the history. So we have two sides and hanging between them, not able to balance life finally. So what?s the solution? become a free agent!

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    gauravhyd

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    wo wo wo... you are thinking a lot my dear..

    yea but i agree to the situation as you've mentioned in your message.

    I also feel the same way.

    But what i try and do is... talk to as many people as i can, motivate them possitively.

    and i've have my path very clear in contributing to my family and society and i keep telling GenX to do something similar related to your passion.

    I'm making some difference to few lives around me, what about you?

    Gaurav.
    gaurav.hyd@gmail.com

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    secret_treaties

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    Hey, that's me!!!

    As a first year gen Xer, I can relate 100% to the blog and the article. Last year I left corporate America and took a road trip to clear my head. Bought an RV - 50 days and 6000 miles later, I am a better man though much less wealthy - but it was worth the time and effort. Plus, the time I've spent with my wife and kids over the last year have been priceless.
    I refuse to re-enter the corporate market where I make money for someone else and struggle to pay my own bills. I will find my own way, on my own terms, and be a better employer than the boomers and the gen-Yers will ever be.
    The boomers have become the "Man" they fought for so long.

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    Arna Presland

    05/15/08 | Report as spam

    Mid-life, mid-career re-think

    I am a Gen-xer, born 1968. I turned 40 this year. I figure I'm about half-way through the years I've been given. It sounds cliche for a 40 year old but I'm due for a mid-career re-think.

    I'm at the point where, deep down, I KNOW I don't want to be doing what I have been doing since graduating college in 1990, for the next 20-25 years. This is probably going to make my boss reel, but I am on the verge on returning to college and re-training in an entirely new field. For various reasons I have not reached the pinnacle of my industry as I can see the sacrifices one has to make to get to the top of the heap. Now, I am ready to take a new track altogether: from marketing & PR to move into urban planning.

    Anyone else feeling the same? Sure, it's going to mean a drop in pay as a student and then as a graduate starting out, but heck I adjusted my salary expectations 6 years ago when I started following my conscience and working for not-for-profits.

    So for Gen-X it's NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. It's about living with yourself and staying engaged with the work you do. I'm in a mid-career rut and I know it. I want to experience life in a radically new way. My boss's position doesn't interest me, I feel I've already done my share and there'll be no shortage of keen Gen-Ys to hand over to.

    But I suspect the boomers went through the same mid-life crises and so will the Ys and Zs.

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    gauravhyd

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I too agree to the point here.

    But the driving factor for me is not the constant change in technology.

    I'm into ITES industry. Works almost 8-12 hours on computers. Its so monotnous. there's nothing much to do apart from staring at the machine for long hours.

    I want to do different things, which involves efforts and hard work as well and i also would like to contribute to the society (The intellectual way).

    I have plans though to do something apart from job. But sometimes it gets so hectic that there is no time for other activities.

    happy

    By the way, this article is a good eye opener to look at other X'gens and what they must be feeling.

    Thanks.

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    gchandna2003

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Life has many aspects....

    Work/Career is one part of the life. We spend most of our time at workplace and no success makes us feel bad or stressed. There are many other equally or more important activities like Family, Friends, Self care, Community activities, pursuing Hobbies and lot more....

    If you have all these in your life then work environment will not bother you much and you lead a peaceful and happy life.

    Best of Luck!

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    richgoidel

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    RE: Unhappiness and Life has many aspects...

    One thing to consider:

    There may be a direct correlation between the way Gen Xers were raised, the current work environment and their expectations around value (self and otherwise).

    This was the first generation that was, in very large part, institutionalized - that is, raised in child care, etc. Moving from there to school, to college, then to work... this generation was taught to model its values after its parents, but, in reality, had to develop a different set of values that, in large measure, stem from an "institutional" perspective.

    And now, the institution of commerce is failing to keep up with innate human needs that may not have been met well from the get-go (much less simply failing in general).

    Seems like a logical outcome for Gen Xers to look around and conclude that they've been short-changed in many ways.

    As for Gen Y? Their model was different. Their value system isn't as tied to the Boomer model, so it's probably easier to deal with institutional life...

    Or maybe they're simply not old enough to see it yet. happy

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    joaocatalao

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    I'm very happy at work

    Please, love what you are doing or doing what you love. Work is a question of live, not a question of died

    Jo?o Alberto Catal?o

    jcatalao@inv.pt

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    exgovt

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Take Time for Yourself

    I just turned 39..I left working for the Federal Goverment 3 years ago to get away from much of what everyone discribes here. Working for managers (Boomers) in a bureaucracy. My boss says to me "in 6 more years when I leave you could have this job!" Who wants to wait 6 years for a promotion? And in reality, did I want that?

    Between jobs I took 3 months off to get my head on straight and moved to Corporate America. I'm finding the same disillusionment here. I'm asking myself everyday---is this it? Am I done before I am 40?

    A co-worker of mine says your career is a cycle of learning, applying and then transfer of knowledge. You then return to learning. This may be why many of us are returning to school. We are seeking new things.

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    greenero

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I'm unhappy sure. We are the generation thats stuck between. We have younger people coming in that are being given jobs they are unprepared for or don't really want and upper management that are dinosaurs that are completely divorced from todays technology but hope there is some "silver bullet" buried in there somewhere.

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    aklimack

    05/20/08 | Report as spam

    Unprepared Gen Y

    This posting really hit home for me. I have just been asked by my manager to "mentor" a Gen Y co-worker as part of my year's goals (i.e. my performance/compensation is based on it). I feel she definitely was given a job she was unprepared for and didn't really even want and I am expected to pick up the slack (i.e. do the work for her credit). I don't know what to do here. I want to be a team player, and would love to mentor someone I thought had a lot of passion and potential. But, I feel forced into this and with someone who kind of....doesn't deserve it? Maybe I am a bitter Gen Xer who never had a mentor??? Thoughts?

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    JPSmith

    05/21/08 | Report as spam

    Keep It Positive

    Try to make this a win-win for both. Find some level of motivation on your part, like, "Do you like to train people?" or find a way to make her good work benefit your work and reputation.

    Maybe you could try to identify what she is good at or has some experience in and focus her efforts in those areas. Or help her to find her motivation or identify her interests. Start with detailed conversation and keep that conversation ongoing with weekly or bi monthly meetings to check on her progress.

    And worse comes to worse, maybe talk to your boss about limiting the mentoring time to 6 months, so there is a finite term to this issue.

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    Mendrel

    05/30/08 | Report as spam

    Unprepared Gen Y

    Please don't tell me I'm Gen Y?

    I'm only 28...does that put me in Gen Y? I hope not. I don't think of myself as clueless about management or technology. Maybe I'm an exception because I know you have to put in more than 40 to get things done and I am willing to listen to anyone with advice. I'm also more than happy to show you a thing or two about technology that will make your life a little easier.

    I accept I'm not ready to be a senior manager but I want to work for someone who will teach me how they've been successful so I can continue to improve my skills. What's the best way to get a job working for the Gen X manager who's ready to put their ideas into action and lead a company to respectable profits?

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    gotyactc@...

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    Gen X

    Since when did you become "Hollier than Thou"? Give her a chance. You may find she's (gonna)be just like you after a few years of
    bureaucratic bombings:-)...Work with her. Ronald gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    catcarroll

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Sounds like BS, putting down the smallest generation that had to deal with our yuppie parents being vain during the cold war in the 80's... now (only a few months ago) showing off their SUVS while the polar caps melt... just one more slam for the small but potent voices of my generation. Yeah, I don't like the rules... the corporate mousetrap... sitting in traffic. I'm 41 - own my own business, work from home in the technology field, live modestly and yes, I'm very close to my family... it's all good, here. The boomers made big waves, but the even bigger gen behind us X'ers give me hope... I see a lot of young people in their 20's making a difference... look out boomers... here they come... I just hope they don't sell out like you did and stick to their principles for creating a kinder world and better planet...

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    dobs0019

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I agree that younger workers enter the workplace with bigger titles and compensation without the necessary skill set. Also, they don't stick to the job long enough if they aren't entertained. That said, I've met many exceptions to this rule. Most companies don't anticipate the learning curve or required training to bring younger folks into the fold; and the expectation that they possess the necessary tech skills is usually not the case.

    My core frustration is due to indecision at the top. Nobody wants to make a decision and stick with it. Worst, some cadre play politics to further slow decisiveness and hamper product development. It's incredibly wasteful.

    Well, happy happy...have a great day.

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    omahaguy1979

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I think Xers like myself are getting disenchanted with corporate life partly due to a recession our economy seems to be entering in the US. We put in more hours than needed and sacrifice a lot to give our companies our creativity. Unfortunately, many companies are beginning to take a stales approach and cost of living raises are getting smaller and not meeting the rising costs.

    What we have is classic dilemma of maximizing utility: work or leisure? Since most of us Gen Xers work hard at
    "trying to like and be creative with our jobs" we find that the shifting priorities of business environment to move faster and minimize costs as opposed to innovation and growth sets a different flow for creative people. If Gen Xers are expected to be happy and be well utilized in the corporate environment, we need an environment in which we can have challenges to bring healthy growth to companies (and get rewards for it).

    The economy isn't great now, but some stimulus needs to be implemented...the old money needs to start circulating and build more ventures or economic activity...we need a new engine to upgrade into the new age of our economy...the rich can keep getting richer while everyone gets lots of education and competes for scarce jobs because the main mentaility is to only do less to keep the costs down and stocks up.

    Final thoughts: Share the wealth Baby Boomers and older people (start doing more to stimulate the economy, eat out more, tip better, invest in your low or mid-level management and junior executives more)...Politically, there are too many tight wads pork-barrel politicking and it's our turn to rule the roost.

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    j.lucas

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    The balance is off...

    Each side should contribute something. The job should teach the employee something new and the employee should contribute to the vision of the company. Most Gen X'ers that I know want a balance between work and personal time. Our parents worked and worked and worked, with very little personal time to spend with family.

    I'm near the end of the Gen X group. I'm not hindered or bothered by technology. I build computers but I cannot program I have a friend who's a Gen Y. He can program but doesn't know anything about hardware. I've utilized networking to lessen weaknesses. Gen Y doesn't seem to be this resourceful. Technology has made them less resourceful. Ask the parents of a Gen X'er, they will say the same thing.

    The Gen Y group seems to enter a workforce that is much more willing to accept what was unacceptable when I entered the job market. I've hired approximately 60 Gen Y employees in the last few years and probably considered 600 to get that number. Most were eliminated because of spelling errors in cover letters or resumes. They have the internet to polish resumes and many make false claims. One example of many: I had a candidate who claimed she could "do anything in Excel". During the second interview, I asked her to create a graph from 2 columns of predetermined data. She sat for 15 minutes and did nothing-she could have looked it up on the internet (I told her all resources were acceptable)-she was shocked when I explained that she was not the right candidate.

    I'm not unhappy at work most of the time, I find a balance, and realize that I can choose to change it or deal with it.

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    jentimus

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Get Over It

    At 46, I agree that the world has changed; the Boomer's world of competency + loyalty = job security has passed. But there is no point in deciding life is terrible just because it wasn't what you wanted to happen - as the venerable Mr. Rogers once said, 'wishes don't make things come true'.

    I am fortunate to have a job where I like what I do. Sure, corporate politics slow progress and don't reward competency as much as popularity, but I have accepted that reality. I do what I can to add value to the company and while I hope the Boomers will appreciate that, I still keep my resume current and my eyes open for a new opportunity.

    Once I accepted that I am a commodity that may one day be disposible, the solution was clear. Like any product, the outside packaging sells me better than the quality of what's inside, so when I must deal with 'the man', that's what I focus on.

    I wish it wasn't so, but reality persists despite our desires, and no one likes a whiner. So get to work, give the people that sign your check what they want to see, do what you can to keep off any lists, and keep your options open, because the company was there before you and will continue beyond you. That's reality, so don't fight it, get over it ... then you can find happiness in the parts of your life you CAN control.

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    Stephen.Haneman@...

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    How about co-existing?

    I am 52...I manage tech at a public School District. I have young tech's working for me at the HS building. I allow them to dress any way they want (the kids think they are cool). Upper management wants us all to relate/connect more with the students...but they still give me grief about the way the tech's dress. It's frustrating.

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    TUBBIES3

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    I'm 20-something

    I'm one of the 20-somethings with a degree. Already I'm working in my 2nd job. Both companies I have been in junior management positions. I do feel that I have quite some way to go but I do not believe I need to start where my parents started off 20yrs ago. Its been quite a challenge getting GenX to assist in training us because they believe that "since you have your varsity degree, you should know how to do the job". But what they fail to realise is that regardless of one's background, one would still have to learn the ropes in any new position. Its not just about the work itself, its the culture, the people etc of that organisation. It is not easy for us either. Most of the time we have to basically find our own way in an organisation and GenX just can't wait to see us slip up. Any mistake is turned into some big proof of how we can't do the work!

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    Napoliana

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    read my mind

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    Vern1271

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Realization

    I'm in my mid 30's and I quit my job of 12 years in 2004 to return to school. I was in upper management (Marketing President) and making decent money with some great perks. I slowly found that I didn't like the direction the company was moving in with the employees. "Employees are easily replaced". They forced people to work 50+ hours a week, somtimes with no day off... it was insane. How do you balance a personal life with that kind of schedule? I finally realized that my job could at any moment be eliminated or be replaced by someone that they could pay far less... so I made the jump.

    I returned to school, got my degree in Information Tech and now work a full time job with a small company that values their employees talents and run my own freelance business on the side. I make more money than I did before and I could walk away from my day job at a moments notice without worrying about how to pay the bills. That's job security in my book.

    Employee loyalty is dead because of the corporate attitude that companies have taken towards thier human capital. Were just numbers to them. Profits matter, people don't!

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    bmr1111

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Totally Agree

    I had a lot of good suggestions for the companies I worked for, yet they thought I was "too young" and "too inexperience." That was after I got an MBA from a top-tier school. Three years ago, at the age of 34, I decided that I would never let others determine my fate and my salary again. I quit a six-figure job and started my own company. I love being my own boss; being a CEO is THE best job I've ever had! I just started hiring people. I promise I will NEVER do to my employees what corporate America did to me. I will allow them to work flex hours, provide transparency on their compensations, and listen to them. Corporate America is still operating in the same mode since the 40's. Wake UP!

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    ttime

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I thought it was just me! People ask what my next move would be and I respond "out of the workforce, I need a break."

    I definitely relate to the frustration with Gen-Y coming and going as they please and my having "toed the line" for so many years, to be respected as a professional.

    But generally, I think there's a lot of burnout in the Gen-X crowd caused by the conflict of wanting that great personal life and balance, yet feeling the pressure to be the perfect corporate guy/gal.

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    sdaulby

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I think the problem with this idea is it starts with a myth. There is no generation X and restating a myth doesn't make it so. Marketing people love to label things, so they can avoid dealing with the human condition which is unaltered in wanting some security in work, some dignity through reward and/or recognition, something personally interesting to do, something that suits our skills attitudes and behaviours and an ability to make mistakes. What's true is that power, money and control are of less and less interest to many younger people as they see that it generates rather uniteresting, flat lives for those who purse it.

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    LeatherSoul

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Test Group

    Gen X is unhappy at work?

    Let's take a look at a group of 10 high school girl friends, all Gen X'ers, all have college degrees, worked hard after college, went on to be successful in our corporate careers but only 2 of us are still towing the corporate line. Many reached their professional goals i.e. VP status, a great income, the highest level they could reach within their companies and then decided to do something else. A couple became stay at home moms (by choice) and love it, while others started their own companies, work for non-profits, changed careers, but all of them thank their lucky stars that they are no longer in the coporate mode. The 2 of us remaining are pursuing other opportunities with the goals being; more gratifying work and more time with our families.

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    KriNic

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    Absolutley!!!!

    I am a Gen Xer. I have worked for my company for 10 years. In that time I have been through 5 mergers. Each time the company becomes worse. I loose benefits, I loose pay, I loose stability. I listen to our guys at the top spout about how our company is considered so employee friendly and that our business is all about the customer and the employee. Nice words, but their actions shout that it is all about the money. I would love to work for myself, but just cannot afford to do it. I am looking at taking a step down in my career simply because where I am now does not offer me the work/life balance that I crave. I do not desire to be defined by my job, I want to be defined by the life I lead outside of work. My job simply pays the bills.

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    tylermartin

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I am always disappointed to see articles that call attention to a specific generation as if this phenomenon is isolated to this specific group of people. It's disconcerting to see younger generations described with things like 'bad attitude,' 'sense of entitlement,' 'lack of work ethic,' 'rude,' and 'disloyal.' I use this specific list because these are the same characteristics that were attributed to the Boomers when the term "Generation Gap" was coined on the cover of LIFE Magazine's May 17, 1968 issue.

    Before I continue, let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I'm 26. I work for a Fortune company. I'm in middle management. These are all generalities, similar to this article. More specifically, I am married. I completed my undergraduate work in five semesters while working full time. I have three kids. I will be completing my MBA from a top-tier university this Fall, again while working and traveling full-time. I paid for my undergraduate work and I am paying for my graduate work. My contention with this article - and articles like it - is that it takes the myopic tactic of generalizing and appealing to the ethnocentric tendencies of its readers. As a member of Generation Y, I do not fit the mold. I carry some of the characteristics of the generation before me and some of the characteristics of the generation to which I belong. For that reason, you cannot pigeonhole me into a single, broad-sweeping article. Furthermore, I cannot pigeonhole Generation X into a single, broad-sweeping article. Compare this article to horoscopes: if you make them general enough, then you're sure to hit on a number of statements. I find this article poorly written and poorly articulated.

    The comments I have read are equally disappointing. There have been comments that argue that Boomers don't work as hard as Xers and in the same comment, the Xer states that he wants to escape the corporate world so he doesn't have to work as hard. Why fault or find flaws with one person's (who happens to be in a generation ahead of you) priorities when you have the same priorities, and you just happen to be at a different career level and don't feel you have the same latitude?

    This isn't a "can't we all just get along" comment; instead I want to draw attention to the fact that each generation does have flaws and they are not unique to that generation. Give up your ethnocentric views about your own generation and placing blame on the previous or following generation. It's not a solution and it just exacerbates the problem this article seeks to stir up, that generalizing and stereotyping is accurate and can be applied without careful though and consideration.

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    Ramchandani

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Why is GEN-X unhappy! Corporate America has changed the rules

    I think a large part of why Gen-X is unhappy is that Corporate America has changed the cardinal rule. Take care of your people and your people will take care of you.

    With all the stuff about lean corporations, just in time workforces, increased productivity, always connected workforces, no corporate loyalty to employees, outsourcing to the cheapest labour markets - quite a different picture from the Corporate World faced by Baby Boomers. Gen-X on whom the whole experiment is being conducted are therefore unhappy to be treated as just another just in-time element in the corporate supply chain, to be used as needed and then discarded when not, always perform or perish.

    I do not think this can be a generalized statement, if you take the top 100 companies to work for and ask the people who work there gen-X or otherwise, they will be happy. Its the "corporate attitude - stupid". Why are people happy to work for non-profits, with their different value system, you are treated as person whose work is valued.

    The good news is that once the Baby boom Cohort retires corporations facing labor shortages that they cannot outsource will be forced to be better cooperate citizens and treat people for the value that they bring to the corporation and not as a replaceable commodity. When that happens and it will, then we can write the story of how Gen-X is the most productive and happy workforce in this century. They are very tech savvy, rebels and are very creative.

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    Here's a good starting point: The 7 Hidden Reasons Employees Leave: How to Recognize the Subtle Signs and Act Before It's Too Late." I've been rolling solo for 30+ years and loving it! Ronald
    gotyactc@yahoo.com

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    dmomof2

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    It's funny, I am actually the opposite in that I worked in NPO for those reasons and a few more and now that my daughters are in their late teens and ready to move to college, I am moving back to corporate.

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    Shopgood

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Maybe this job

    I too am feeling the sting of being worked with no loyalty. I left corporate america for the very reasons stated in the article. I went to work for a well known nonprofit organization and found that to be worse than corporate america. The same problems were even more prevalent there and I was paid horribly for seventy hour weeks. Ironically, the NPO didn't care about the employees either or the mission they were suppose to uphold. What does an X'er do? I am now going to work for nuns and hope this works out.....

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    gotyactc@...

    06/02/08 | Report as spam

    Gen X

    We need to talk! Ronald (209)484-9702 or gotyactc@yahoo.com.....

    Life is fragile, handle with prayer(daily)....Peace be with you!

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    pennycrump@...

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Blame the Gen-Xer

    So it's our fault. We can't cope with change, we can't use a computer and we can't balance our personal lives. Give me a break. The seniors are just hoping they don't get laid off before retirement and the youngsters are still eager and naive.

    I'll tell you why I'm not to keen on corporations ... every few years someone writes a best selling business book that gets implemented. It has words like paradigm and synergy and impactful in it. And we get shuffled around and reorganized and downsized. Nothing improves, except for maybe the stock goes up because Wall Street likes layoffs.

    By the time you have reached our age, you have figured this out and want to get as far away from it as possible.

    Sincerely,

    Just another disgruntled Gen-Xer

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    Tesnopoly

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Great Article! I am part of this generation X and really took your information
    to heart. I started a real estate investment company with my brothers last
    May to combat the struggles of working for corporate america. I was
    downsized several years ago, fighting a 401K that kept losing value and
    realizing that it would take a lifetime of doing the same work to have barely
    enough for retirement. I wanted something different so I did something
    different. Real Estate investment done the right way provides amazing
    returns (passive income, tax deductions, appreciation, and ability to leverage
    other people's money/time and credit).
    I now work with hundreds of investors doing wholesales, short sales, fix &
    flips and multi-family buy & holds. If you want more information go to
    www.getoutofjobfree.com

    Happy investing!

    Greg Tesnar
    Tesnopoly Inc.

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    caoimghgin

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Erickson correctly observes Gen-X's relative conservatism and increased parenting pressures. She also scores hits on X'ers entering the workforce when the economy was slow and witnessing more than their fair share of layoffs. In fact, X'ers have not only seen lay-offs, but have often been laid off many times themselves.

    However, Erickson, like many in her position, incorrectly misplaces her focus by examining the X'er rather than looking at the corporation.

    I remember working 80+ hour work weeks. I remember 20 hour all-nighters because the company needed it. However, I do not remember being rewarded with extra responsibility or having my voice heard in decisions or freely given an increase in pay for my efforts. Like the Y'ers, I had to threatened to leave to get a good paycheck. I too began to wonder what I got from my efforts when pink-slips were being distributed through the office.

    I think the unhappiness of X'ers comes from having seen the corporate game from the outside for so long, we have realized that the vast majority of us will not be invited into the club. While we can be seen wearing the white shirt and tie and slacks, we are simply the working class in nicer attire. X'ers realize there is very little we can do to change anything. At least, anything that is worth something to us as human beings.

    If corporations can magically transform themselves into the ethical, stable entities they once were, who are accountable to their employees as well as their stock holders, then perhaps X'ers might stick around. Otherwise, we will happily hand the torch to the Y's and go our way, like we should have done so many years ago.

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    NICKSHIPLEY@...

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Why we want out...

    I think the real deal boils down something like this...husband and wife both working trying to keep ahead of the bills, trying to keep up with a house and two cars, trying to keep up with the Jones', trying to keep up with the latest technology, trying to get to a point to have kids and be able to raise them better than mom and dad and dealing with jobs that don't have a make enough of lasting impact on society.

    We are the generation that saw the wall come down in Berlin, saw the cold war end, saw the our corporate might wounded with the towers coming down, saw terrorism in Oklahoma, New York, D.C. and Pennsylvania.

    We are tired before the race is even half way done. We really want peace but the isolationism is gone with the last century. We have been affected by world, by our culture, and by our inability to adapt fast enough to real changes in our corporate and social environment.

    So...why stay here...why not open an ice cream shop on a lake in the UP of Michigan or an Snowball stand in Hawaii...why keep up with the constant changes in the rules to accomodate everyone except us...

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    Vitecjose

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    "you???re not all as comfortable with the technology that is changing the way things are done as everyone seems to think you are."

    well, It is not that I don't feel comfortable with technology, I am uncomfortable with speed of change. is hard to keep up and you company is looking at you and saying "you are the young guy, how do we do it? what is the next thing?"

    also because of analytical tools things are being examine to a scary detail. everything is under a microscope, figures are being pull apart to the last digit and the amount of reporting is getting ridiculous "sales-force". It is like a Micro-manager paradise.

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    seansilverthorne@...

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    Wow -- You Gen Xers are really cheesed off!

    Have to say I never expected this much emotional outpouring when I wrote this post.

    It's been fascinating to read the 75 comments so far in a short amount of time.

    May I summarize?

    Gen X wants out because you are:

    1. Tired.
    Tired of work. Tired of balancing work and family. Tired of trying to live up to unrealistic expectations. Tired of mergers and downsizing. As Madeline Kahn said in Blazing Saddles, "Goddammit I'm tired!!!"

    2. Disillusioned.
    What ever happened to company loyalty? Oh, it got outsourced to India, like your last two jobs.

    3. Resentful.
    You've worked hard with little management promotion to show for it. Won't those aging Boomers move on and open some slots for the rest of us?

    4. Ticked.
    Speaking of Boomers, how about the ones writing the messages on this post telling you to stop complaining and suck it up! Sounds just like at work.

    5. Annoyed.
    Boomers are bad, but Gen Y is getting annoying, too. As swilson927 put it, "Generation Y is working hard at becoming the most self-absorbed demographic ever."

    6. Moving on.
    A number of folks here HAVE made a change in their lives and are pretty darn happy about it.

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    allanmaguire@...

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    corporate loyalty

    The only loyalty the corporations have is to shareholders..they even operate outside the laws that govern most folk (corporate laws)
    Who are the shareholders?....the boomers with their retirement funds and share portfolios bursting at the seams after a lifetime of putting money above breeding.

    Of course they want us to take the reins and keep filling their pockets....unless theres a greater profit to be had outsourcing jobs from India (you know corporate law...responsibility to shareholders...laws of supply and demand....free market forces...bla blah blaar)

    Im always amused at the infalibility boomers see in the free market...like economic laws are somehow immutable like physics or chemistry.We all know what happend to communism in its pure form....how do you think the free market will treat the plague of aging boomers with little western workforce to care for and support them? oh yea....India/China and the bursting pockets may help

    By the way...Gen X would be unhappy regardless. I think the 80's made us all permanently depressed watching all those "greed is good" freaks and the advent of the yuppie.Although repulsive they are somehow burned onto our souls and we're all woried we'll be like that in the end.

    Look away now

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    My Unique Name134

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    "Cheesed Off"

    Sean,

    Why shouldn't Gen X be "Cheesed Off"? You took three of the more provoking reasons from Tarmara's work and presented them in your original article. You did not frame what she was trying to say in her blog, and offered no balance. You then ended your article abruptly with "Does this strike a chord with you". Did you think that after poking and generalizing an entire generation that Gen X is to respond kindly?

    Your article is a poor piece of journalism. It appears to me that you wrote this article with a chip on your shoulder. I'm sorry if your barista messed up you order, but don't take you frustrations out on an entire generation.

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    catcarroll

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    X-scaped!!!

    I loved reading all these posts... the X generation is so small, I don't know about the rest of you but I don't get enough of this camaraderie!!! After an incomplete college degree due to raising kids, I worked the corporate later first in administrative positions which led to (my preferred) hardware/software tech, advanced to higher positions with more complexity, etc., I liked everything but not being in control of my own time or income. I was always taking new courses for certifications and gaining more credentials for some big companies; Gilbarco, Trans Union, Nippon Denso... slaving away to the wee hours and constantly pushing my knowledge base on my own time, only squeezing in family until one day... oh, yeah... it was 9-11... I lived near a nuke plant and that day I was struck by the reality of looming danger and put in my notice. I decided to take a chance by moving over to the mountains, live more simply, enjoy family and strike out on my own. My fancy resume meant very little to the mountain folk, here... If they didn't know my family, they wouldn't hire me anyway. So when my nest egg ran out I was forced to freelance to keep food on the table and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I just promoted myself with all the skills I had acquired, one thing led to another and now I own a publishing company... I do graphic design, handle all the administrative tasks and delegate distribution and processing. I make as much as I did in the corporate world except for the perks and benefits package... it?s different in a good way. I built an addition onto my home for my office and I ride my bike a lot more... Its beautiful here, no smog, no traffic? people are laid back. I let my suits collect dust in the closet for a couple years, but those days are long gone... THERE ARE NO SQUARE SUITS IN MY WARDROBE... I'm back to spandex leggins! (and slippers!) I hope ya?ll find your bliss! I?ve found mine. X-Cat

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    LegalEaseCA@...

    05/16/08 | Report as spam

    Unhappy ... that's why I left ....

    I understand what it is like to work for a company that is promoting a great product, but is supervised by a passing-the-time-to retirement boomer who can't seem to crack down on the twenty somethings working for him. I, in my 40s, want to be recognized for my skills and commitment to getting the job done. I like to be left alone to get the job done, without having to chit-chat about someone's love life not working out. Although I loved what I use to do ... I had no choice but to leave to go out and do my own thing. Yes, it is hard to leave a good paying job for complete and total insecurity. For most companies I've applied to, my resume has too much experience and the offers never came, especially at the pay level I think by now I deserve. So I am a consultant.
    If you are a boomer, nearing retirement with skills and talents you think others can benefit from, I want to hear from you. If you are in my age group (34-42) and feel that you should be doing something more, I want to hear from you too. We need to find ways to help eachother define what we want and get what that is.

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    vanreamer

    05/23/08 | Report as spam

    Same-O

    I have the same change. I switched to being a consultant and in my repetoire I have all the time in the world to accommodate the "life-enhancing" elements that I previously never thought I could (nor could I afford). There are plenty of benefits to this, and you're better off. This way, you write yourself your own paycheck. So if all else fails, try doing things the right way. It's called self-employment.

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    myrnamiraj

    05/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Absolutely hit the chord. I am one of the Gen X'er and am musing on quitting within 2 years and having my own small F & B outlet.

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    GRx3r

    05/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X'ers aren't hippies

    Re-read the post to which you replied. They weren't calling Gen X'ers hippies, but rather the Boomers.

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    gwiggs5@...

    05/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    The vast majority of the Gen X'ers in my organization seem engaged and committed to our mission ... but feel frustrated by the lack of senior management engagement with them.

    In other words, the invisible senior management leaves one wondering if he/she/they really care that the Gen X'ers "worker-bees," who get that all-important mission accomplished, exist!

    Oh my! Another similar story: Poor organizational communication!

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    Akinlosotu

    05/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    sometimes employer look at this set of employees as being trap in the system particularly the 40's, having mid career crisis and pour anything on them.the response is no further commitment.It is you either take it or leave it
    yommy

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    Scott.M

    05/19/08 | Report as spam

    The world changed around us

    Gen-Xers started out in the job market when corporations still had a lot of middle-managers. The people who mentored us taught us how to survive in THAT world.

    Now, organizations are much flatter. Those middle management jobs don't exist any more. There isn't anyplace to move up to anymore. The old rules have gone away and the new rules seem to change every day.

    When you cut your teeth in a highly structured corporate environment, is it any wonder that we had trouble addapting to the super-flexible, team oriented, fast-paced environment of today?

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    JPSmith

    05/20/08 | Report as spam

    be who you really are, do what you need to do, to have what you want

    I fell off my career path into a secretarial job (long story), which was great when I was having my two babies. But now I am overqualified for (and bored with) a job in a company that does not appreciate my abilities or intelligence. I have not even been offered an interview, and I have a masters in communication. You'd think I'd be able to get the resume and cover letter right. SO it seems to me that many employers don't know how to hire good people, which tells me that the don't know how to manage them either.

    I am trying the networking approach. Joining associations, going to mini seminars, and volunteering in my area of interest. I read a lot of books in the last year about finding a fulfilling career and my favorite was the "48 Days to the Work You Love" by Dan Miller. I admit to not using his approach, but I liked his advice.

    This is another quote I am using now from Margaret Young. "Often people attempt to live their lives backwards: they try to have more things, or more money, in order to do more of what they want so that they will be happier. The way it actually works is the reverse. You must first be who you really are, then, do what you need to do, in order to have what you want.?



    I think that the only intelligent people out there are the ones reading this article online.

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    caoimghgin

    05/22/08 | Report as spam

    Gen-X, the gagged progressives of the 21st century.

    The nearly caustic reaction of boomers against X'ers (and vice-versa) this post has generated inspired me to do some soul searching and research about my generation, the so called "baby busters". Just what is it about this "slacker" generation that makes them so different? Anger, frustration, political apathy and a distrust of authority appears to define the X'ers but they are not just unhappy in the workplace, they are unhappy period.

    An economic study which made headlines in 2007, 'Economic Mobility: Is the American Dream Alive and Well?" found that in real dollars, male X'ers made 12% less than their fathers at the same age and that pay increases have slowed to 0.3%, barely keeping up with inflation. In 2008 gas prices have increases $0.85, which can only mean gen-X is worse off today than only a year ago.

    However, none of this explains why generation X has been marginalized, denigrated and maligned by the boomer generation. Despite the X'ers perception that they are getting the short end of proverbial stick (which no doubt is cause for this 'whining' other generations perceive) they still appear to lack any main stream platform to define what they want and how to get it.

    I believe the antipathy X'ers experience is because they are the gagged progressives of the 21st century.

    Theodore Roosevelt, one of Americas greatest presidents and a true progressive, made his mark on the world by breaking up corporate monopolies, supporting environmental initiatives and negotiating with trade unions, which is quite a change from the corporate consolidating, environmental pillaging, union busting administrations that have dominated since X generation was born.

    Despite X'ers legendary aversion to manifestos and distaste for market categorization, here are six points that I believe X'ers support. What makes these points interesting, I believe, is the near universal support for these changes among X'ers and the near universal hatred of these policies by non-progressive boomers.

    1) Fair trade, not free trade -- You may have noticed X'ers tend to buy really good coffee at shops with "Fair Trade" signs in the window. While boomers spent the better part of their lives boiling inexpensive coffee in a tin percolator in the kitchen, X'ers like the idea of buying quality products and paying people fairly for their work. X'ers wonder why America cannot extend fair trade concepts to everything we import. They believe making 'deals with the devil' makes you his accomplice. If anyone doubts this, they can ask 'Do no evil' Google about helping China locate political dissidents.

    2) National health care -- Eliminate financial risk when people are between jobs or starting their own business. Generation X has experienced more lay-offs than any generation past or present yet our health care system is built upon the premise that employers pay a large portion of a grossly expensive insurance rate. America's current health care policy promotes fear and individual insecurity and it's time we take care of this.

    3) Free higher education -- Incurring massive debt before setting foot in the job market promotes fear and narrows freedom of choice. Scrambling for ever shrinking grants and scholarships is not an answer. Using a GI bill as a carrot to entice underprivileged into armed military service is not an answer either.

    4) Newborn rights -- Mothers receive stipend and assistance to spend their first year with their babies before they go back into the workforce. If we depend on young mothers to create incomes, America needs to support them when they are creating the next generation of Americans.

    5) Collective bargaining for workplace security and better-than-survival wages. Just because we're not coal miner doesn't mean we can't bargain collectively.

    6) Vacation time, as enjoyed by European nations for decades, so Americans can participate in the world, and in their own lives.

    In short, I believe that if Teddy Roosevelt were running for president today he'd get the vote of Generation X.

    So, X'ers, are you the gagged progressives of the 21st century? How do you boomers feel about this? If I have hit this on the mark, it could bring some clarity to the communication problems we have both experienced over these years. All comments welcome.

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    Ironwing

    05/22/08 | Report as spam

    Not tracking

    I am considered in Gen X and I find that many of the things that supposedly define this generation do apply to me but certainly not all. I do not believe in any of the 6 points you made. I am not sure where the ideas came for these.

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    vanreamer

    05/23/08 | Report as spam

    Right on

    This is the extrapolated evidence that the newest Gen can't get a grip on because it didn't happen to them. But, thn again, think of it this way, a lot of Gen X are (allegedly) responsible for bringing the additional "Gen's" into the world, so garbage in, garbage out. Thank Gawd I didn't reproduce.

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    JPSmith

    06/05/08 | Report as spam

    Too many freebies makes it hard to be happy with what you got

    I think us Gen Xers have had too easy; at least for me. My parents were poor. Their parents were poorer still ( immigrants). I have been given an upper middle class education and housing plus a 4 year degree, and a free clunker till I could afford to buy my own car. Do I know what the heck I want? Not a clue. Never had to figure it out till I was unhappy with everything that had been given to me.

    When you have to work for something, whether it's a bicycle or a car or a degree, you don't take it for granted.

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    islandidea

    05/23/08 | Report as spam

    GEN X will be the forgotten generation

    I beleive we (Gen X's) are marginilaized due to our lack of numbers. We do not vote, because we see no hope in it. When Social Security was implemented there were 16 workers for every one retiree, now as the boomers retire, there are only 2 of us for every one of them. We know there is no hope in ever seeing a social secuity check. But we pay extrodinary taxes into something we will NEVER benefit from. The numbers just don't add up. I'm 38. At my 20 year high school reunion in a wealthy suburb of Houston, there was exactly 1 person married and none with any children of their own. I find this extradordinary.
    We make a heck of a lot of money but can't afford our own homes. We must put all our money into 401K's and other investments if we ever want to retire. We have no progeny to take of us. But we are taking care of our parents (and grandparents) who can't make ends meet.
    We will be the forgotten generation.
    We know we didn't invent the technologies of today, but we did learn to Program in BASIC on Apple's in junior high and high school. We took apart old 286's to see how they run. We are not afraid of the technology, because we have seen how it's developed. We are the ones who proliferataed it. We are the one's who figured out what to do with it. Make it better and easier. We are the tech help for both generations because the youger ones have no understanding of the foundations of how these machines and networks were developed and have no interest in learning the basics, they just want the flashy stuff. They difinately do not not understand how it works. I don't mind being the bridge in my familty between by boomer husband and teenager stepson. My aging parents to boot.
    I have been one of the most acheivement oriented people, yet I have learned ( With much difficulty) to be content with the fact that I still live better than 99% of the people on this planet. I tend to look at the big picture and that keeps me going. So what if MY genes aren't passed on? There are plenty of people in the world living in rapidly developing economies that will inevitably replace us.
    So what? We are all one species. As long as the species as a whole survives- that's what's most important. Let's get off this rock and get all the resources that are within easy reach in our solar system and dramatically increase our odds of survival as a species.

    Hmmm...Interesting that this is where my post ended.

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    Min Hooi

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    i see it all the time ...

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    jerang@...

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    @mendrel good point! I do agree with you!

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    Egirl

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I am a Gen Xer in my early thirties. There are 2 things that really drive me crazy right now: 1) Office Politics and 2)Gen Y and/or Z.

    1) Office Politics - They suck! Why can't I just come to work, do my job, do it well and go home at the end of the day? What is so wrong with that? Don't people realize that you do a kick-ass job in your position and for your company without living and breathing it 24/7?

    2) Gen Y and/or Z - It amazes me that people ten years my junior can get the jobs they get. The only attitude I have ever seen from any of them is that they deserve everything handed to them on a silver platter because they just are. They are on g-chat all day, while shopping at Old Navy.com, then leave work early because they feel like it. Then on top of that, I can hear them talking on their iPhones to their parents asking when they will put that money into their checking accounts for their mortgage. Ummm...reality check - you are an adult with a job - pay your own mortgage. Of course, I guess most of this issue goes back to the parents. Such a sad world we live in!

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    reedj

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    I went solo -- took all that knowledge that I had bothered to learn in my various corporate jobs and put it to work for myself! How many times do you see and hear about companies listening to consultants rather than their own employees??? So, do what I did -- become a consultant!

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    john.decoville@...

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    I'm a boomer and a "Shaker and a Mover" when it comes to new technology

    I was born in '46 and started programming with the IBM 7090, 360, 370's. Any of you know what these computers are? I sequed to the AS/400 and now am a .NET and SQL-Server 2005 Data Base developer.

    And the Milleniums are teaching me stuff and I do ask for help. I feel no embarrassment "Not Knowing". Why are those in their 30's and 40's so embarrassed to not know something?

    They do not know how to construct a good Business Layer in the application and -- that is where I come in.

    However, if I didn't dye my hair and interviewed those same X'ers for a job, the Gen-X's ageism would put my r??sum?? in the trash-can. I really resent that. So I am grateful to have a really good job at county-government.

    I find the Gen X'ers really quite bigoted at times when they know so little and worst of all: They don't know that they don't know.

    That's my piece. Enjoy it.

    --John

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    LOUIETR

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    @john.decoville, you are my idol!!

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    rob4CEOSpace

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    WE have many unhappy Gen Xers leaving corporate America to follow their entrepreneurial bent. A great place to get all the needed assistance to accelerate your entrepreneurial growth is a place called CEO Space check them out at www.ceospace.net

    Rob Adams

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    khooper1

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    RE: Gen X is Unhappy at Work

    Its impressing how much truth I have learned in reading this blog. I my self is afraid that in the near future I can't able to go to the places I want. That's why I'm grateful with the technology today, probably the vehicles in the future will be the one responsible for bringing us to different places. Who knows our future car will have a super powerful power steering pump parts that will make them a super blasting car!

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