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Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

February 9th, 2009 @ 3:39 am

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Tags: Shareholder, Compensation, Professor, Executive Compensation, Reform, Cappelli, Benefits, Financial Accounting, Human Resources, Finance

  • The Find: The public is outraged over perceived excesses in executive compensation, but the experts at the Wharton School are unsure executive pay is really out of control and whether we have a workable plan to limit it.
  • The Source: An article in Knowledge@Wharton.

The Takeaway: President Obama proclaimed the $18 billion paid out in Wall Street bonuses in 2008 “shameful,” while Vice-President Biden was angry enough to haul out a naval metaphor. “I’d like to throw these guys in the brig,” he declared. It’s safe to say America’s leaders are reflecting a broadly held public sentiment: the fat cats are overpaid. Reform is needed. But is it really?

Wharton accounting professor Wayne Guay, for one, has his doubts. “Curbs on compensation might be justified if proponents can prove that high pay packages contributed to the current economic crisis,” he says, but “given the global nature of the economic meltdown… the cause of the collapse was not supersized U.S. executive compensation.” In Guay’s book, trimming CEO paychecks is all about public relations.

Finance professor Alex Edmans is skeptical that executive pay is truly irrational. “Despite some notable outliers,” he argues, “executive compensation on the whole correlates to results… a CEO who is even slightly better than a competitor is probably worth additional pay.” He also notes a double standard across industries. Rock stars and all-star sports players receive outsized pay, why not executives? He concludes that limiting compensation may only serve to drive the best bosses to foreign or privately held firms.

Finally, management professor Peter Cappelli comments that the real issue isn’t limiting compensation but instead restructuring it. Attempts in the 90s to link compensation and shareholders’ interests did encourage executives to act like shareholders. Cappelli’s question is, which shareholders? “They act much more like short-term shareholders than the widows and orphans holding the stock for 30 years,” he says. Though this is a flawed model, “no replacement model has emerged.” Until one does, Cappelli predicts, “little will change.”

Want more skepticism from academics? Columbia Business School’s Public Offering blog is the place.

The Question: Is limiting executive pay in the best interests of America?

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    Youknowme2

    02/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    Yes, Rock Stars and Movie Stars do make a lot of money but they do not take taxpayer money. That's the difference.

    The CEO should have two choices. An honorable one, quit or two, get a minimum paycheck if he/she takes TARP funds. Having government bail out any firm is unhealthy and does not clean up the excesses of capitalism acting as a self regulator of ineffeciency.

    On the other hand, the Union/Government alliance is doing a much better job of fleecing the taxpayer. Will Jessie Jackson take $500k when he gets Porkulus funds? How about ACORN, will they limit pay or just "spread it around".

    Face it, we are pretty much screwed no matter which way we turn.

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    mcross67

    02/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    These "Professors" outrage me. It doesn't
    matter whether their excessive compensation
    contributed to the economic crisis. the fact
    is, you can't ask the public for money to
    compensate your employees, especially over paid
    ones. The money is supposed to be used for
    securing the company and for ensuring continued
    business. Compensation is last in line,
    especially when other people are losing their
    jobs! These people are elitists!

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    joquiroz@...

    02/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    I agree and disagree.

    If you are using taxpayer money in the form of a bailout, you need to follow their regulations, period. Whether that is compensations need to drop to the amount the President of the US makes or another arbitrary number, that's that (btw, let's remember the president has a house we all pay for, a fleet of jets which we also pay for, etc., so he does not really spend his money while in office).

    If your company isn't using assistance from the government, then the board should feel free to spend (or waste) or compensate their executives however they want (shareholders should be the ones regulating that).

    Let's remember systems like this have been in use for many years, so you can't really blame the executives, it would have happened long ago.

    Another thing is, even if you have regulations limiting exec pay, there will be a way to go around them and compensate them over the limit amount (say the company happens to buy a Porsche for transportation?)

    Ben & Jerry's used to be a company that had a cap on CEO pay, however when the Owner/CEO retired, they had a hard time finding a suitable replacement and they had to raise the salary cap

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    arkanaut

    02/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    It's irrelevant whether high executive compensation contributed to the recession. It's also irrelevant that they're taking money from the government or not, especially since until now the government hasn't set any guidelines on what they can and can't do with the money. The reason that everybody is criticizing these executives is that their companies are in such poor financial shape that they need to ask for money from the government in the first place, but they're still paying large sums of money more than they absolutely need to. And people right now don't buy the argument that they need large bonuses to retain talent because nobody's there to pick them up if they jump ship.

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    treelife

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    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    Although, I don't believe we ought to restrict
    CEO's compensations, the cap that was set was
    made only on companies which received
    government funding. And on that front, I
    believe it's necessary. Indeed, it's right for
    the government, as a temporary stakeholder, to
    dictate the conditions on any subsidies it
    provides to any economical agents to ensure the
    best use of taxpayers money. That's pretty
    normal.

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    joquiroz@...

    02/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    @treelife: You are completely correct, the government is a temporary stakeholder, and being a mayor stakeholder as they are, they should be able to set some restrictions on how their money should be spent.

    Can someone address WFB?
    Wells Fargo is one, if not the only, bank that has their company together. There was not suffering because of the housing market and from what we can see, they did not need to take part of the bailout for banks, yet they were bullied to do it.

    Anyone care to comment?

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    dbutchko

    02/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    Rock stars and sports stars command huge payouts only as long as fans are willing to pay the ticket prices. Unfortunately there is not a good analogy in the business world. The best we have is stock market price, but tying executive compensation too closely to stock market price can lead to some very short term thinking, which can be disastrous for the long term.
    Having been in HR, I've heard the argument that if we don't have "competitive" pay (read "exorbitant") we won't be able to attract the best talent. Well, if the best talent has gotten your company to the point where the government has to give you a loan to keep you afloat, it might be time to see what the second best talent can do. I don't think they would do much worse, and you can pass the savings on compensation on to shareholders.

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    Youknowme2

    02/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    The very people that got us into this mess, Barney Frank, Dodd, Waters and Obama (while working for Acorn) should be ashamed of themselves.

    They were the genesis of this mess and should be held accountable.

    All this really is an attack on the free enterprise system by a bunch of people that couldn't run a business to save their lives.

    If I was a president of a company, I would do two things. 1. Not hire any women to head off any future instances of the Lilly Ledbetter bill.
    2. Fire all the people that express any support for Obama before all others. Any Obama stickers on the car, gone, emails, gone, web page visits, gone.

    They can try the Obama plan and see how they like it!

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    upshift

    04/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Wharton Profs Skeptical of Curbs on Compensation

    For those that support the salaries of the CEOs, OK.

    However explain to the rest of us why the average salary of
    the CEO went from 40X the average employee salary, 30
    years ago and now that ratio is creeping up to 400 X the
    average employee salary.

    Are you saying that the executives are 10X smarter than
    their counterparts?

    A good example is the auto industry. Are the CEO's of the big
    3 10X smarter than their Japanese counterparts?

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